kaigou: organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up. (3 fixing to get organized)
[personal profile] kaigou
ETA: you can find all posts on this topic at http://kaigou.dreamwidth.org/tag/fantabulous+delicious+extravaganza

I've been watching the spiraling storms of raeg around del.icio.us and its utter fail, and there seem to be about six different places that people are randomly congregating about possibly doing a fandom version. Consider this a welcoming home if you want to link/share for all suggestions in one place. I don't know if anyone else is organizing this, but I'm not talking about the heavy-duty of code. I'm talking about something that has to happen before anyone puts code to screen, or else any project would end up just as messed-up as the current disaster.

Short version: first step is to figure out the fandom wishlist.

I do business analysis & an information architecture (BA/IA), so this isn't scary to me. Those titles just mean I figure/find out what clients (that's all ya'll) want (the BA part), and I figure out how to shape that into something meaningful and findable in a web application/site (the IA part). Basically, I organize stuff. Granted, something like this -- which is effectively tagging potentially the entire freaking intarweebs -- is much bigger than anything I've ever done personally... but that just means I'd be [very!!] happy to be joined by any other IA, or UX, or BA, folks. And, if for whatever reason real life gets in my way, at least this post would stand as a collection-point for the reference of whatever team does end up doing the project.

[NOTE: I'm not volunteering to run this project. I'm not even remotely considering running it. I'm just not a project manager. I will happily defer to, and assist, anyone who is and is willing to take on the lead position. Just be aware that I know where I'm good and PM ain't it.]

To keep this easy to organize for me and/or whomever ends up compiling it:
  • PLEASE do ONE requirement/request PER REPLY. If you have five things that you really really think are important, do five replies. It's okay, this isn't spamming. It just makes it easier for the next step:

  • If you see someone else has a request and it's the same as yours, just reply to that request with a +1 as the subject line. Consider it a kind of informal voting; the more +1 replies a request gets, obviously the more important it is to the community.

  • Feel free to suggest something that del.icio.us didn't do, but that you've seen elsewhere. Be sure to add a link to a screenshot or the app itself so the requirements-gatherers (me and my kind) can see your suggestion in action, if that's at all possible.

  • If you want to volunteer, please do that as a separate reply just so it doesn't get lost in the requests. Just put "VOLUNTEER" as the subject line of your reply, followed by the specific task. Like, say, "VOLUNTEER: php coding" or "VOLUNTEER: user interface design" or whatever. If you want to volunteer for something & you see someone else already has, just reply to their post with your own -- this way, everyone with similar skills gets grouped together, and we'll (hopefully) keep the noise-to-signal ratio down a little.

  • Link, share, pass along, signal-boost, whatever you like.

I'm not going to reply to every single post, just to keep the noise level down, but I may reply if I'm not sure what you mean, for clarification. (If you're also a BA, IA, or UX person, feel free to jump in wherever, as you think's needed. The more the merrier.) See first comment & reply if you're interested in the ongoing googledoc with requests to Pinboard. Feel free to extract & copy to this list, if there's a wish there that you'd want recorded here, as well.

Also, anonymous comments are NOT being screened, so be sure to sign your post if you're volunteering, so we can find you! (You do not have to sign your posts if you're just adding to the general requirements list.)

Be civil, help keep the threads organized for easy finding later... and dream big.
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One current wishlist

Date: 28 Sep 2011 09:00 pm (UTC)
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] branchandroot
The googledoc that Anatsuno made for Pinboard (a desired-features list) is simmering right along and might be a good place to start.

Re: One current wishlist

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:46 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (Default)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
Most important feature - ease of following tags and networks.

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:34 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

ie a subscriptions page (preferably with ability to filter like 'X tag by Y user') and RSS functionality

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:48 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Fullmetal alchemist - sarchasms, we can has them. (Bunny is so happy!)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
Bundling similar tags together for organizational structure.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:38 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
and maybe being able to nest bundles at least once. (idea courtesy of pinboard googledoc)

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:49 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (Default)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
Auto complete so that tags can be easily reused, even if quite long.

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:50 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (Default)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
Ability to see who else has tagged a link - easier to find people with common interests.

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:51 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (Default)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
Ability to choose if link is public or private.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:05 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:55 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (Default)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
Ability to import from other sources.

+1

Date: 29 Sep 2011 06:23 pm (UTC)
franzeska: (Default)
From: [personal profile] franzeska
And, relatedly, the ability to export, preferably with some options (e.g. exporting just my bookmarks with a particular tag).

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Re: One current wishlist

Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:56 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (Default)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
Ease to book mark while casually browsing ie bookmarlets, extensions for browsers.

Re: One current wishlist

Date: 30 Sep 2011 08:34 pm (UTC)
yeomanrand: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yeomanrand
+1

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Re: One current wishlist

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:57 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (isumi - nervous)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
I miss my delicious account - in case you couldn't tell. :(

Date: 29 Sep 2011 03:17 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
Filter by more than one tag.

Date: 29 Sep 2011 08:34 pm (UTC)
qem_chibati: Coloured picture of Killua from hunter x hunter, with the symbol of Qem in the corner. (A cat made from Q, E, M) (Default)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
+1 (x a million. :3)

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+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 03:17 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
list with associated tags

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:29 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

plus the number of times each associated tag intersects with the tag in question as on delicious

Date: 29 Sep 2011 03:19 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
make the number of links per page and amount of info per link customizable.

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:32 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 03:43 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
mass-editing of links

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:52 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
I'd like to see this combined with my Boolean search suggestion, as well as search by date, to produce a really flexible mass-editing tool

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 03:46 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
renaming, separating and fusing tags

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:32 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:21 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
be able to write notes for the links

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:22 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
ability to search site wide by tags and/or notes

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:33 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:23 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
some way to report dead links to the people who bookmarked them

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:33 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:36 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
Ability to hide or otherwise mark (perhaps an icon or highlight) bookmarks/links to URLs that are already in your bookmarks on the rest of the site (e.g. other users' bookmarks, search results)

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 04:08 pm (UTC)
brownbetty: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brownbetty
I would consider this similar to the "collapsed" tag display, but perhaps that should be noted separately? (Or maybe already is, I will continue paging down.)

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:41 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
Ability to hide duplicate bookmarks of the same URL in search results -- ie, to collapse the results to display a single entry for each URL/link (perhaps the bookmark of the most recent person to save it).

(Obviously it would be necessary to be able to expand the results to display all bookmarks of that URL separately as well.)

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:48 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
I'd prefer this only apply to search results and not tag subscriptions or networks. Or be a toggle/opt-in/opt-out. I often use frequency as a quality filter, and also I'd miss a lot of stuff if it only showed up on my feed once. I was subscribing to 50+ tags and nearly 100 ppl on delicious, so things moved very fast.

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Off-topic, but:

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:43 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
Ability to reorder search and browsing-by-tag results by the date on which that URL was first bookmarked on the site in order to display truly new (-to-the-site) content first

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:07 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:54 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
obvious way to mark links as SFW or NSFW

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:33 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

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Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:26 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
cross-posting to other sites like diigo and pinboard

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:32 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
and delicious if it ever returns from it's zombie-like status.

Date: 29 Sep 2011 10:35 pm (UTC)
haruka89: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haruka89
save pictures, like you can do with diigo (apparently, haven't used it yet)

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:07 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:36 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Person-readable URLs. If they take the delicious format of SITE.COM/USER/TAG2/ETC, A++, but anything simple and obvious would be awesome.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:08 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

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