kaigou: organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up. (3 fixing to get organized)
[personal profile] kaigou
ETA: you can find all posts on this topic at http://kaigou.dreamwidth.org/tag/fantabulous+delicious+extravaganza

I've been watching the spiraling storms of raeg around del.icio.us and its utter fail, and there seem to be about six different places that people are randomly congregating about possibly doing a fandom version. Consider this a welcoming home if you want to link/share for all suggestions in one place. I don't know if anyone else is organizing this, but I'm not talking about the heavy-duty of code. I'm talking about something that has to happen before anyone puts code to screen, or else any project would end up just as messed-up as the current disaster.

Short version: first step is to figure out the fandom wishlist.

I do business analysis & an information architecture (BA/IA), so this isn't scary to me. Those titles just mean I figure/find out what clients (that's all ya'll) want (the BA part), and I figure out how to shape that into something meaningful and findable in a web application/site (the IA part). Basically, I organize stuff. Granted, something like this -- which is effectively tagging potentially the entire freaking intarweebs -- is much bigger than anything I've ever done personally... but that just means I'd be [very!!] happy to be joined by any other IA, or UX, or BA, folks. And, if for whatever reason real life gets in my way, at least this post would stand as a collection-point for the reference of whatever team does end up doing the project.

[NOTE: I'm not volunteering to run this project. I'm not even remotely considering running it. I'm just not a project manager. I will happily defer to, and assist, anyone who is and is willing to take on the lead position. Just be aware that I know where I'm good and PM ain't it.]

To keep this easy to organize for me and/or whomever ends up compiling it:
  • PLEASE do ONE requirement/request PER REPLY. If you have five things that you really really think are important, do five replies. It's okay, this isn't spamming. It just makes it easier for the next step:

  • If you see someone else has a request and it's the same as yours, just reply to that request with a +1 as the subject line. Consider it a kind of informal voting; the more +1 replies a request gets, obviously the more important it is to the community.

  • Feel free to suggest something that del.icio.us didn't do, but that you've seen elsewhere. Be sure to add a link to a screenshot or the app itself so the requirements-gatherers (me and my kind) can see your suggestion in action, if that's at all possible.

  • If you want to volunteer, please do that as a separate reply just so it doesn't get lost in the requests. Just put "VOLUNTEER" as the subject line of your reply, followed by the specific task. Like, say, "VOLUNTEER: php coding" or "VOLUNTEER: user interface design" or whatever. If you want to volunteer for something & you see someone else already has, just reply to their post with your own -- this way, everyone with similar skills gets grouped together, and we'll (hopefully) keep the noise-to-signal ratio down a little.

  • Link, share, pass along, signal-boost, whatever you like.

I'm not going to reply to every single post, just to keep the noise level down, but I may reply if I'm not sure what you mean, for clarification. (If you're also a BA, IA, or UX person, feel free to jump in wherever, as you think's needed. The more the merrier.) See first comment & reply if you're interested in the ongoing googledoc with requests to Pinboard. Feel free to extract & copy to this list, if there's a wish there that you'd want recorded here, as well.

Also, anonymous comments are NOT being screened, so be sure to sign your post if you're volunteering, so we can find you! (You do not have to sign your posts if you're just adding to the general requirements list.)

Be civil, help keep the threads organized for easy finding later... and dream big.

Date: 29 Sep 2011 09:41 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
Ability to hide duplicate bookmarks of the same URL in search results -- ie, to collapse the results to display a single entry for each URL/link (perhaps the bookmark of the most recent person to save it).

(Obviously it would be necessary to be able to expand the results to display all bookmarks of that URL separately as well.)

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:48 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
I'd prefer this only apply to search results and not tag subscriptions or networks. Or be a toggle/opt-in/opt-out. I often use frequency as a quality filter, and also I'd miss a lot of stuff if it only showed up on my feed once. I was subscribing to 50+ tags and nearly 100 ppl on delicious, so things moved very fast.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:39 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
I definitely think that it should be toggle on-off. I would find it quite inconvenient if it were on all the time as well(incidentally, new!delicious has just made its tag page display this way with no way to turn it off and it is predictably inconvenient). It's just that there are certain specific times - particularly when looking through older bookmarks, for older fandoms, or pages that are almost nothing but duplicates - where it would be very useful.

Also I definitely think that the 'collapsed' view should show a counter displaying how many times each link has been bookmarked (new!delicious does this now).

Date: 3 Oct 2011 05:20 pm (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
I think that would be a really good way of doing it.

Alternately, I think you could also try having it as a user preference setting. I would never use that option, because I want to know ALL THE THINGS. But I think cimorene's point is well made, there are instances where it might be useful to some people.

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 04:09 pm (UTC)
brownbetty: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brownbetty
This! It's always been one of the most annoying thing about delicious' “most recent” tag display, that even if you were looking at 100 results, sometimes there were only about 40 unique ones.

Off-topic, but:

Date: 30 Sep 2011 10:01 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
It really has! If you haven't seen, new!delicious is displaying tag pages this way now, but unfortunately there's no way to view (a) whose tags you're seeing or (b) the notes on any of the bookmarks. Both of those would be necessary features of the collapsed view, I feel, from a fic-finding perspective.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 10:12 pm (UTC)
brownbetty: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brownbetty
I haven't been to new!delicious recently, or much, beyond ascertaining that it couldn't give me the fix I was jonesing for, but year, w/out notes, it's extremely valueless.

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