kaigou: organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up. (3 fixing to get organized)
[personal profile] kaigou
ETA: you can find all posts on this topic at http://kaigou.dreamwidth.org/tag/fantabulous+delicious+extravaganza

I've been watching the spiraling storms of raeg around del.icio.us and its utter fail, and there seem to be about six different places that people are randomly congregating about possibly doing a fandom version. Consider this a welcoming home if you want to link/share for all suggestions in one place. I don't know if anyone else is organizing this, but I'm not talking about the heavy-duty of code. I'm talking about something that has to happen before anyone puts code to screen, or else any project would end up just as messed-up as the current disaster.

Short version: first step is to figure out the fandom wishlist.

I do business analysis & an information architecture (BA/IA), so this isn't scary to me. Those titles just mean I figure/find out what clients (that's all ya'll) want (the BA part), and I figure out how to shape that into something meaningful and findable in a web application/site (the IA part). Basically, I organize stuff. Granted, something like this -- which is effectively tagging potentially the entire freaking intarweebs -- is much bigger than anything I've ever done personally... but that just means I'd be [very!!] happy to be joined by any other IA, or UX, or BA, folks. And, if for whatever reason real life gets in my way, at least this post would stand as a collection-point for the reference of whatever team does end up doing the project.

[NOTE: I'm not volunteering to run this project. I'm not even remotely considering running it. I'm just not a project manager. I will happily defer to, and assist, anyone who is and is willing to take on the lead position. Just be aware that I know where I'm good and PM ain't it.]

To keep this easy to organize for me and/or whomever ends up compiling it:
  • PLEASE do ONE requirement/request PER REPLY. If you have five things that you really really think are important, do five replies. It's okay, this isn't spamming. It just makes it easier for the next step:

  • If you see someone else has a request and it's the same as yours, just reply to that request with a +1 as the subject line. Consider it a kind of informal voting; the more +1 replies a request gets, obviously the more important it is to the community.

  • Feel free to suggest something that del.icio.us didn't do, but that you've seen elsewhere. Be sure to add a link to a screenshot or the app itself so the requirements-gatherers (me and my kind) can see your suggestion in action, if that's at all possible.

  • If you want to volunteer, please do that as a separate reply just so it doesn't get lost in the requests. Just put "VOLUNTEER" as the subject line of your reply, followed by the specific task. Like, say, "VOLUNTEER: php coding" or "VOLUNTEER: user interface design" or whatever. If you want to volunteer for something & you see someone else already has, just reply to their post with your own -- this way, everyone with similar skills gets grouped together, and we'll (hopefully) keep the noise-to-signal ratio down a little.

  • Link, share, pass along, signal-boost, whatever you like.

I'm not going to reply to every single post, just to keep the noise level down, but I may reply if I'm not sure what you mean, for clarification. (If you're also a BA, IA, or UX person, feel free to jump in wherever, as you think's needed. The more the merrier.) See first comment & reply if you're interested in the ongoing googledoc with requests to Pinboard. Feel free to extract & copy to this list, if there's a wish there that you'd want recorded here, as well.

Also, anonymous comments are NOT being screened, so be sure to sign your post if you're volunteering, so we can find you! (You do not have to sign your posts if you're just adding to the general requirements list.)

Be civil, help keep the threads organized for easy finding later... and dream big.
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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:43 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
A way to give a bookmark two urls (for when a story is crossposted places). I would prefer this to be a manual option, and I think (despite knowing little about coding things) easier to implement that any sort of automatic detection.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:01 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:44 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
A way to archive a copy of your bookmark (as a premium feature?), including the ability for the saving mechanism to get at things behind age warnings and/or locked posts.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 04:38 pm (UTC)
shadytail: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadytail
+1

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+!

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:45 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
I would really like the ability to do multi-word tags. IDK if this would make the person-readable urls more difficult?

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:00 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:47 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Boolean search using more than one AND, as well as OR, and NOT. Also, wildcards.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:56 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
+1 (ELEVENTY!!)

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:54 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
DW/LJ-like privacy levels: public, private, friends/circle/network only, custom group(s) only

edited for spelling
Edited Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:56 am (UTC)

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:58 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
ha, beat me to it! I would like privacy options for both links and tags. I want at least the private and public options, don't really care one way or another re: network privacy.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:56 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Group/shared/community accounts, for fannish comms and shared projects.

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:46 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:58 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
HTML including line breaks in the link descriptions section, which a lot of fans use for several things.

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:42 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:58 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
tags respect capitalization

+1!

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 01:59 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Tag autocomplete options so that users can choose what approach best suits them: alphabetical, by most frequently used, a full list of all tags, etc.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:00 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
ooo +1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:00 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
site respects order tags are entered in unless the user has opted-in the option to have your tags auto-alphabetized or somesuch.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:03 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1 Let users pick their options as to how they ant their tags sorted, yes!

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:01 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
ability to use special characters in tags, including '/' :D

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:03 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1 ELEVENTY MILLION! ::laughs::

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:03 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
ability to pull in RSS tag/user subscriptions from other sites to a subscriptions and/or network page **INCLUDING TAGS** (delicious, diigo, pinboard, any others?) :D :D

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:07 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Have an inbox for various notifications. (ie, I've seen ppl requesting notification when someone bookmarks a specific URL, and some other things on the pinboard doc)

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:10 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1 I'd accept email notifications as an interim measure, if an inbox was too complex, just as long as I had a way to get notifications.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:10 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Have separate 'network' and 'subscription' feeds/pages

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:11 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Have a method for filtering both network and subscription pages. IDK what the technical term is, but both positively and negatively. IE 'everything except A' or 'only B'.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:16 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1 (And the technical term is a Boolean search, using AND "1 AND 2", OR "1 OR 2", NOT "1 NOT 2", and *wildcard* "1*anything*" or "*anything*2", to filter results.)

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+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:11 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Be able to see the number of times a link has been bookmarked by other users. (I use this as a kind of quality filter a lot for fic links.)

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 04:11 pm (UTC)
brownbetty: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brownbetty
Yep, this.

+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:13 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Read other people's (public) notes about bookmarks

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:22 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
And have the link to access this be someplace obvious and always show up even if only one person has marked it.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:17 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
TAG COUNTS. I'd like the number of times a tag has been used next to the tag instead of a tag cloud concept. And when filtering by tag, I'd like what delicious used to do which was show all the tag intersections with numbers reflecting the # of bookmarks where that tag was used with the filtering tag.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:33 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:21 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Having a 'marked to read later' site-wide flag that is not a tag a la pinboard would be pretty sweet. I can post a screenshot if this makes no sense. Also, a quick-save link next to links on your various feeds to send links to that flag. Also having that option disappear if you've already saved that URL.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:34 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1

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+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:25 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Have page layouts be appropriately modular to make for easy skinning via scripts or somesuch.

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:44 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
ELEVENTY!!!

+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:27 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Accessibility options/stuff. IDK what this entails, but putting some effort/attention into this would be good.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:32 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
+1 to different colour options, text sizes, and some compatibility tests with screen readers.

+1

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:28 am (UTC)
drunkoffthestars: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
display URL in addition to title notes and tags.

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:45 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:31 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Options to decide how much detail you want to see when you're looking at a page of links; show/hide subject, url, tags, details, notes, etc.

+1

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:46 pm (UTC)
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
I wanted more options than old delicious had and now everybody has even less. :(

Date: 30 Sep 2011 02:37 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
The sort of anti-censorship, post-what-you-want, read-at-your-own-risk TOS that old delicious had, rather than the we-may-delete-your-stuff-at-any-time TOS that new delicious has.

Date: 30 Sep 2011 06:25 am (UTC)
oxfordtweed: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oxfordtweed
What happened to the days when it was pretty much accepted that people on the internet were adults, capable of making their own decisions? I don't bookmark porn very often, but when I do, I like to know that it will stay where I put it. *sigh*

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+1!

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Date: 30 Sep 2011 06:41 am (UTC)
thejeopardymaze: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thejeopardymaze
Communities, groups, private messaging and blocking capabilities, and web clipping function in which you can save web pages (I heart Evernote). The ability to save all the data to hard drives would also be a great plus.

Currently I'm using Zootool, which is taking some time to get used to and isn't without its problems, but at least it doesn't take as much time to load like Diigo does, and its free.
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