what's on your wishlist?
28 Sep 2011 03:11 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
ETA: you can find all posts on this topic at http://kaigou.dreamwidth.org/tag/fantabulous+delicious+extravaganza
I've been watching the spiraling storms of raeg around del.icio.us and its utter fail, and there seem to be about six different places that people are randomly congregating about possibly doing a fandom version. Consider this a welcoming home if you want to link/share for all suggestions in one place. I don't know if anyone else is organizing this, but I'm not talking about the heavy-duty of code. I'm talking about something that has to happen before anyone puts code to screen, or else any project would end up just as messed-up as the current disaster.
Short version: first step is to figure out the fandom wishlist.
I do business analysis & an information architecture (BA/IA), so this isn't scary to me. Those titles just mean I figure/find out what clients (that's all ya'll) want (the BA part), and I figure out how to shape that into something meaningful and findable in a web application/site (the IA part). Basically, I organize stuff. Granted, something like this -- which is effectively tagging potentially the entire freaking intarweebs -- is much bigger than anything I've ever done personally... but that just means I'd be [very!!] happy to be joined by any other IA, or UX, or BA, folks. And, if for whatever reason real life gets in my way, at least this post would stand as a collection-point for the reference of whatever team does end up doing the project.
[NOTE: I'm not volunteering to run this project. I'm not even remotely considering running it. I'm just not a project manager. I will happily defer to, and assist, anyone who is and is willing to take on the lead position. Just be aware that I know where I'm good and PM ain't it.]
To keep this easy to organize for me and/or whomever ends up compiling it:
I'm not going to reply to every single post, just to keep the noise level down, but I may reply if I'm not sure what you mean, for clarification. (If you're also a BA, IA, or UX person, feel free to jump in wherever, as you think's needed. The more the merrier.) See first comment & reply if you're interested in the ongoing googledoc with requests to Pinboard. Feel free to extract & copy to this list, if there's a wish there that you'd want recorded here, as well.
Also, anonymous comments are NOT being screened, so be sure to sign your post if you're volunteering, so we can find you! (You do not have to sign your posts if you're just adding to the general requirements list.)
Be civil, help keep the threads organized for easy finding later... and dream big.
I've been watching the spiraling storms of raeg around del.icio.us and its utter fail, and there seem to be about six different places that people are randomly congregating about possibly doing a fandom version. Consider this a welcoming home if you want to link/share for all suggestions in one place. I don't know if anyone else is organizing this, but I'm not talking about the heavy-duty of code. I'm talking about something that has to happen before anyone puts code to screen, or else any project would end up just as messed-up as the current disaster.
Short version: first step is to figure out the fandom wishlist.
I do business analysis & an information architecture (BA/IA), so this isn't scary to me. Those titles just mean I figure/find out what clients (that's all ya'll) want (the BA part), and I figure out how to shape that into something meaningful and findable in a web application/site (the IA part). Basically, I organize stuff. Granted, something like this -- which is effectively tagging potentially the entire freaking intarweebs -- is much bigger than anything I've ever done personally... but that just means I'd be [very!!] happy to be joined by any other IA, or UX, or BA, folks. And, if for whatever reason real life gets in my way, at least this post would stand as a collection-point for the reference of whatever team does end up doing the project.
[NOTE: I'm not volunteering to run this project. I'm not even remotely considering running it. I'm just not a project manager. I will happily defer to, and assist, anyone who is and is willing to take on the lead position. Just be aware that I know where I'm good and PM ain't it.]
To keep this easy to organize for me and/or whomever ends up compiling it:
- PLEASE do ONE requirement/request PER REPLY. If you have five things that you really really think are important, do five replies. It's okay, this isn't spamming. It just makes it easier for the next step:
- If you see someone else has a request and it's the same as yours, just reply to that request with a +1 as the subject line. Consider it a kind of informal voting; the more +1 replies a request gets, obviously the more important it is to the community.
- Feel free to suggest something that del.icio.us didn't do, but that you've seen elsewhere. Be sure to add a link to a screenshot or the app itself so the requirements-gatherers (me and my kind) can see your suggestion in action, if that's at all possible.
- If you want to volunteer, please do that as a separate reply just so it doesn't get lost in the requests. Just put "VOLUNTEER" as the subject line of your reply, followed by the specific task. Like, say, "VOLUNTEER: php coding" or "VOLUNTEER: user interface design" or whatever. If you want to volunteer for something & you see someone else already has, just reply to their post with your own -- this way, everyone with similar skills gets grouped together, and we'll (hopefully) keep the noise-to-signal ratio down a little.
- Link, share, pass along, signal-boost, whatever you like.
I'm not going to reply to every single post, just to keep the noise level down, but I may reply if I'm not sure what you mean, for clarification. (If you're also a BA, IA, or UX person, feel free to jump in wherever, as you think's needed. The more the merrier.) See first comment & reply if you're interested in the ongoing googledoc with requests to Pinboard. Feel free to extract & copy to this list, if there's a wish there that you'd want recorded here, as well.
Also, anonymous comments are NOT being screened, so be sure to sign your post if you're volunteering, so we can find you! (You do not have to sign your posts if you're just adding to the general requirements list.)
Be civil, help keep the threads organized for easy finding later... and dream big.
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Date: 3 Oct 2011 05:24 am (UTC)One of the questions this brings up for me is: are the tags going to be moderated site-wide? I mean, there are a lot of different ways people would tag the same thing, depending on what their organization style is - Harry Potter could be: HP, HarryPotter, harry potter, f:HarryPotter, c:harrypotter, HarryPotter(Book!Verse), and probably a hundred other permutations. With that in mind, I'd think the most general search option might be best, but with a "search for exact phrase" option as well.
Again, I'm coming at this from the position of "has no freaking idea about coding or any of that fun stuff" - so I might not even be saying anything useful!
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Date: 3 Oct 2011 05:34 am (UTC)Me, personally, I'm not for moderating ALL tags site-wide, because we all have our own styles of how we want to interpret/save links. That said, maybe the auto-generated tags would be the moderated version, which you could then edit to fit your style -- or even add and then have a secondary tag that's in your style. Like choosing "Harry Potter" as a generic tag, and "HP:bookverse:book3" as your own tag.
That might be more important to people who want to be able to share their links, and make them easily findable to other users (whether limited or fully-public sharing). I mean, if I kept my links completely private, then it wouldn't matter whether I use global tags, b/c it's only for my own eyes, right? (And private wouldn't show up on searches, either, or in totals, so it wouldn't make much difference there.)
As for the capitalization, there are several really good arguments now for respecting capitalization, and they're not just OCD. It could also be foreign language tags (like German), or because the original term is an acronym or abbreviation, like you said. I mean, a tag of a govt department like "IRS" means something different to me than "irs", which just looks like a misspelling!
So I'm thinking I'll update the "respect capitalization" requirement with an added requirement that we have the option to search "cap-sensitive" or "not cap-sensitive" -- so if you only wanted SPN but not spn (or even sPN or Spn or spN!) then it'd only give you SPN, exactly.
(Granted, now we've got the question of who would moderate the tags, but that's for another day!)