bad girl

13 Mar 2005 05:07 pm
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Bad Boy/Girl, definition: Someone that the rest of the world thinks is a Bad Boy is just someone who could frankly care less what the rest of the world thinks of him.

Pursuant to the two previous posts linked, the following are random observations triggered by the comment: "You are sensitive. But you are not a Sensitive Guy. Sensitive Guys (TM) use their sensitivity to get you into bed, and it's all crap because they're going to do more whining than you in the morning anyway."

An incomplete list of Bad traits. Feel free to add your own. A Bad Boy/Girl:

  1. Doesn't worry about whether you'll respect her in the morning. If you don't now, she's aware of it and probably doesn't care. She respects herself. Your respect is icing on the cake.

  2. Doesn't cry, 'call me!' Bad Boys do the calling...or don't.

  3. Is emotionally independent. Your support is appreciated, but not critical. There will be no superglued body parts for a Bad Girl.

  4. Doesn't take shit.

  5. Never asks, "will he or won't he" but "what do I want and how do I get it?"

  6. Respects you enough to not treat you like a delicate flower that might be trampled, and expects the same.

  7. Plays games only with consenting partners who also know when it's a game. Corrollary: a Bad Girl will call you on games.

  8. Is sexually secure. Bad Boys can wear pink. Bad Girls can wear men's suits. Neither care what you assume.

  9. Isn't threatened by affection, but does it because he wants it, not because there's an audience or because it's expected.


Classic Bad Boy line, from Last Picture Show.

Bobby: You a virgin?
Jacy: I guess I am.
Bobby: Too bad.
Jacy: I don't wanna be, though.
Bobby: I don't blame ya. Come see me when you're not.

EDIT: --

From 'Surrendered Single', a tip to women on dating:

She relinquishes her checklist of qualities she thinks she requires in a man. Then, she acknowledges that she can be blissfully happy with an imperfect man, and that she will definitely be lonely without one.

I'm not sure whether to gag, or fall over laughing. I'll settle for both. Twits!

Date: 13 Mar 2005 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com
*snickers*

So bad boys, you know, have taste? What can I say. I never understood people who acted like being a virgin was a good thing.

I am suddenly reminded of part of the "Surrendered Single," that said that the surrendered woman knew she had no control over who asks her out. My immediate reply was, "But she can say no, and she can ask out whomever she damn well pleases."

I was aware things like that made one a Bad Girl.

Date: 13 Mar 2005 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] habibti.livejournal.com
Never heard of 'Surrendered Single'.

Wanna explain?

Date: 13 Mar 2005 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com
Oh, dude, let me find a link. Someone on my flist found this book about "The Surrendered Wife," which was explaining how a woman could create "intimacy" in her relationship with her husband by pretty much submitting to him in everyway.

There was a "Surrendered Single" too. It was one of the most offensive pieces of tripe I've ever come across...

Here we go.

This is my friend's review of it. http://www.livejournal.com/users/somnambulicious/29168.html There are links in there. XD

Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] habibti.livejournal.com
I really, really, really tried to read the whole rant but I couldn't even stomach the rant because the whole 'surrendered thing' just wanted to make me hurl my breakfast all over the keyboard.

I also googled 'surrendered single' and found that website. My upchuck reflex is being severely challenged again.

I have HUGE issues with the surrendered single thing:

How is femininity compromised by honesty? By being who you are?
Why is being sure of myself and confident in who I am a turn off? To bolster the ego of a guy who's not?
Why do I need to violate my integrity about who I am for a man?
Why is being on my own such a terrible thing?
Why can't people see that respecting others and treating them courteously does not mean being a doormat?

We're just creating a whole bunch of 'beloveds'. (You know, from the Women's Room). We disempower ourselves, make them think they're hot shit and then we'll wake up one day and find them proud and cocksure and insufferable and realise we've created these monsters that we can't live with.

Grrrrr......

Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com
*pets comfortingly*

Believe me, I know exactly what you are going thought.

Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] habibti.livejournal.com
Thanks.

Love the icon.

Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okaasan59.livejournal.com
I just read your friend's post. Wow, that book is scary. I'd seen the title before but falsely assumed it was about a consensual Dominant/submissive relationship.

Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com
Nope. See, that would make sense.

That is just something else entirely. Pardon me, but I'm not going to stop being a reasonable, critical person just because it makes a man feel threatened.

Date: 14 Mar 2005 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
*snorts*

Even the consensual D/s relationships I've known wouldn't put up with that crap!

Date: 14 Mar 2005 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achiasa.livejournal.com
There was a copy of that fucking book in my public library. It was like a horribly gory road accident - I had to have a look. I think I lasted all of 3 pages. Ugh. The worst part was that the woman had the gall to try and use ballroom dancing as an analogy, because according to her the man leads and the woman happily submits and does what she's told.

Uh, no. It takes two, honey. And in the best and most successful partnerships, leading is nothing more than a formality. Depending on the specific step, control can pass back and forth between the man and lady according to who is better at the figure. If the man is inexperienced, the lady is effectively leading anyway. At the end of the day, it's a partnership.

Date: 14 Mar 2005 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
It has the vague feeling of reading those books on "how to be a published writer" and "how to get an agent" and "how-to" all sorts of things, and then you check the credentials and find out the person's never been published or has only had one agent or whatever. It's sort of like having a mechanic who's never looked under the hood of a car, and quite glibly informs you that yes, the radiator fan IS connected to the distributor cap and runs the rear axle guides, of course.

Yeah.

Partnership. I mean, you'd think this would be obvious by now.

Date: 13 Mar 2005 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
This book will teach you how to "judge a man's character in 30 days or less" -- wtf are these mindless twits doing, trying to write a dissertation on the man? Crap, I can judge a man's character in an hour. Less. It's not that HARD people. (Well, more fun if it is. So to speak. Yes.)

Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meritjubet.livejournal.com
I am trying to stop laughing, but it is hard...

Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Really what gets me is the suggestiveness of that one switch.

Date: 14 Mar 2005 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underpope.livejournal.com
Considering that the switch doesn't ever really go to "off" until age, oh, 95 or so. In some cases.

Date: 14 Mar 2005 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
*snerk*

Date: 14 Mar 2005 03:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] christeos-pir.livejournal.com
Just remember: Up = On.

Date: 14 Mar 2005 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelidon.livejournal.com
Good gods. why would *anyone* want a "surrendered" *anything*? It'd be like wrestling with a dressmaker's dummy -- where's the fun in that? Most of the fun in life is being surprised by people...particularly those people who you know/know you best. That's one of the top criteria I have for a long-term relationship, speaking as someone who's in one that's 20 years old, and another that's at 7 years. Does your partner still surprise you? *GOOD* That's a sign of life.

Any relationship that involves the word "relinquish" is not of much interest to me. On the other hand, "relentless," "unbelievable," "incredible," "untamed," or "surprising" is good, especially if followed by the words "passion," "lust," "creativity," "desire," "art," "ability" or "knowledge."

Date: 14 Mar 2005 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
wrestling with a dressmaker's dummy

And once again, I bless my keyboard condom! *wipes off tea* Man. Whatta visual...

The only "relinquish" I can handle long-term in a relationship is in the sentence, "relinquish the goddamn remote control now". I like that kind of relinquish. The rest can blow me.

Date: 14 Mar 2005 03:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] christeos-pir.livejournal.com
I'll bet none of you youngsters remember the nonsense about the "Total Woman."

Date: 14 Mar 2005 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
That was a song by Aretha Franklin, right?

*ducks*

Date: 14 Mar 2005 07:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] atpolittlebit.livejournal.com
Something about Saran Wrap and *oops* the UPS delivery guy?

Date: 14 Mar 2005 10:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] christeos-pir.livejournal.com
*heads to mall to buy a brown uniform*