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From a Salon essay about the English-language translation of The Ringbearer, a satirical/parodic take on The Lord of the Rings. First, tying into both myth-making and a broader pop culture application, per the issue of fantasies in re women's roles, this food for thought:
"The Lord of the Rings" wouldn't be as popular as it is if the pastoral idyll of the Shire and the sureties of a virtuous, mystically ordained monarchy as embodied in Aragorn didn't speak to widespread longing for a simpler way of life. There's nothing wrong with enjoying such narratives -- we'd be obliged to jettison the entire Arthurian mythos and huge chunks of American popular culture if there were -- but it never hurts to remind ourselves that it's not just their magical motifs that makes them fantasies.

And an intriguing reaction from the reviewer, too, in the final paragraph:
Yeskov's "parody" -- for "The Last Ringbearer," with its often sardonic twists on familiar Tolkien characters and events, comes a lot closer to being a parody than "Wind Done Gone" ever did -- is just such a reminder. If it is fan fiction (and I'm not sure I'm in a position to pronounce on that), then it may be the most persuasive example yet of the artistic potential of the form.

And since translations and language have been on my brain, this paragraph from an interview with Arundhati Roy, author of The God of Small Things:
To be able to express yourself, to be able to close the gap—inasmuch as it is possible—between thought and expression is just such a relief. It’s like having the ability to draw or paint what you see, the way you see it. Behind the speed and confidence of a beautiful line in a line drawing there’s years of—usually—discipline, obsession, practice that builds on a foundation of natural talent or inclination of course. It’s like sport. A sentence can be like that. Language is like that. It takes a while to become yours, to listen to you, to obey you, and for you to obey it. I have a clear memory of language swimming towards me. Of my willing it out of the water. Of it being blurred, inaccessible, inchoate… and then of it emerging. Sharply outlined, custom-made.

Date: 23 Feb 2011 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] maire
I do agree with you about the idea of ordination. I'm not comfortable with it as a reason for people to be ruling anything.

OTOH, arguably Tolkien's hero in the novel is the lower-class character (Sam) who volunteers to be involved and who steps up to the plate when the hereditary hero (Frodo, who inherited the ring) fails. It's Sam who takes over the ring quest, either by carrying it, or by carrying Frodo, all the way through Mordor.

It's Sam who is portrayed as setting up the new, better society in the Shire at the end, not Frodo. And it's Sam who has the strongest character-development arc -- he is the character most fundamentally changed by his experiences (except possibly Gimli). This doesn't fit in the with 'ordination' thing at all.

At the end, he shows an ordained king ruling far away, with little detail. He also shows a guy with no powerful or notable family history, from a poor background, become the Mayor of the Shire with a great deal of detail. And he shows two hereditary rulers completely stuffing up their rule (Denethor and Theoden). One is salvagable with good examples and forced removal of poor advisors. The other is not. I don't think this overall picture supports the idea that Tolkien's main theme was the rightfulness of inherited rule. Honestly, I think he portrays so many different results of inherited or ordained rule that it's not reasonable to take any of them as having his full support. The Numenoreans are definitely a line of god-ordained kings. They fall, taking their entire island with them. Aragorn is a god-ordained king. He does well. Galadriel doesn't like the god-ordained system in heaven (Valinor), strikes out on her own in what is then the hinterlands, suffers terribly, and eventually establishes the most beautiful place on earth.

(Tolkien's most explicit look at ordained heroes suggests his opinions matched yours more than you seem to think, too. The 'ordained' person, intended by the Valar to overthrow Sauron is the upper-class demigod Saruman. He fails. He fails so badly that he turns into the secondary villain. Gandalf's assumption of his role is great, but not what was planned by the 'gods'.)

As far as being able to tell good guys and bad guys apart by skin colour, I know much is made of this, very validly, but I don't think it was the author's *intent*. Good guys: all white, yes (in this prehistoric Europe). Bad guys: Saruman, Grima, Denethor, and various faceless groups from the east and south. I think it's sad that Tolkien was caught up so far in his cultural assumptions that he felt safest saying of the east and south that he simply didn't know what happened there. He sent them two wizards and said explicitly that he didn't know what happened with them. But I do think he was definitely trying, over and over again, in his novels to say that it was actions that mattered more than what one looked like or who one's forebears were, even though he obviously thought cool ancestors was a nice thing to have. I think it's awful that he set up his world to equate dark with evil and then continued that with skin colours. It's horribly racist. However, it's taking things too far to say he provided colour coding of heroes and villains. His villains are quite able to be fair. He says so rather often.

Date: 23 Feb 2011 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] l-clausewitz.livejournal.com
Sam the hero? YES. Bloody hell yes. I've always read Sam as the real main-character-cum-hero of the story, regardless of whatever Tolkien may have intended with him. Come to think of it, we actually see the journey to Mordor more often through Sam's eyes than through Frodo's, at least once they got beyond Bree.

Date: 24 Feb 2011 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] maire
I'm pretty sure Tolkien was genuinely trying to do multiple heroes, rather than one. But Sam's easily the one who both has real character development and who is unambiguously heroic.

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