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[ ETA: to clarify a term I frequently use (but may be unfamiliar to some), "animanga" is a portmanteau of "anime" and "manga", meant as a shorthand for "the Japanese illustrated-story publishing/production industries, including manga (graphic novels), illustrated 'light' novels, four-panel comics, animated television shows, animated miniseries/OVA (Original Animation Videos), and animated theatrical releases". Because there's often a great deal of cross-pollination between the two types (printed vs. moving), I tend to use "animanga" to refer to the entire ball of wax in one easy word. ]

We all know (and likely loathe, at least given the posts I see go past from most of you) the damsel in distress: she does something stupid, gets captured/hurt, has to be saved by the hero, and usually ends up clinging to him. I've been browsing some of the manga that readers have classified (on reader-tagging database sites) as "strong female lead" or "strong female character", and I think we need an intermediary.

Something like, "female character damselfied by the author", or "damsel with fighter tendencies," for a less anti-author spin on it.

The so-called "strong female characters" usually go like this: she's relatively outspoken, strong-willed, and ostensibly very good at whatever she does (even if in some stories we never see her do anything, we're at least told she's good). She's independent, and a common expression or thought among the transistional damsel is that she wants to 'stand on her own two feet'. She'll often explicitly state that she intends to fight [the big bad], alongside the hero, as his team-mate or equal. She doesn't see the hero as her rescuer, but as her mentor or her role model (and sometimes as the person she aspires to equal).

Cases in point: Tokine in Kekkaishi, Sakura, Hinato, hell just about any of the female characters in Naruto, Rukia in Bleach, Lenalee in D.Gray-Man, Marie/Soma in Gundam 00, Hilde in Gundam Wing, Kallen in Code Geass. Yet to be determined if Yura (from Nurarihyon no Mago) will fall into this category, as the fight's not done, so there's still chance for her to fall in line.

These are all combatants, btw; I don't think this transitional category applies to civilians, like Winry (of Fullmetal Alchemist) -- as a non-fighter, her most likely means of expression (in a sense, "her way of fighting") is not going to be head-on battle-mode, so it doesn't seem right to measure her by the same standards.

For each of the cases in point (and plenty others but I'm midway through drawer-building and waiting for glue to dry, so keeping this short) -- the introductory pattern, as combatant, is usually as above. Somewhere mid-battle, however, the damselfied combatant is tripped up. One of three things will happen. Either she doesn't have enough spiritual oomph, eg Tokine, Lenalee, and just about every female character in Bleach. Or she doesn't have the will-power/dedication (or alternately, can't overcome her doubt in herself), eg Kallen, Marie/Soma, and Yura (in her earliest fight-scenes). Or the author simply sets her up against fighters who just happen to out-rank her -- Hilde, and nearly every female in Naruto.

Which ultimately amounts to: she still needs to be rescued, but with a twist: she gets mad at herself for ending up in a place that requires the hero rescue her. You can see the differentiation most clearly in Nurarihyon no Mago, actually: Kana is a true damsel in distress, captured, helpless, and waiting anxiously for someone to come save her, and it doesn't even occur to her that she might've, or could've, done anything on her own behalf. Yura, in contrast, is annoyed at needing to be rescued, and determined to do her best to prevent it from happening again.

So what we get is the apparent warrior-woman, trapped in the position of damsel-in-distress (injured, incapacitated, or just plain outranked and unable to contribute to the overall fight), but also consumed by frustration at her position. She invariably rails helplessly against her, well, helplessness, and we're supposed to see this as a fighting spirit, and ignore that basically she was set up to fail. Again and again these transitional damsels throw themselves against someone far stronger, but digging into that observation means realizing that even these so-called warrior-damsels are always set up as weaker in some way, from the get-go. The story's premise either presumes the female character to be weaker (ie Tokine) or undermines the female character enough to destroy her original potential (Sakura, Lenalee).

We're supposed to see the warrior-damsel's determination to fight "against the odds" as bravery... but I can't help but note that in nearly every bloomin' instance, the fight doesn't cause the warrior-damsel to power-up like it does for her fellow (male) character. It just beats her down, and puts her back into the box of needing to be rescued. The only real difference is that we got teased with the possibility that this time, it wouldn't be so, and we got a lot of words from the heroine about how she wants to fight and/or be acknowledged by the hero and/or be equal to the hero in strength -- but the bottom line is that the message in the actual text is that this will never happen. But that's okay! As long as she wishes it might, that makes her strong female, because at least she's not helplessly accepting her damsel position.

Or maybe it just makes her kinda stupid, for entering battles with fighters who out-rank and out-flank her. Or maybe what makes her stupid is signing up for a story with an author who give plenty of lip service among the fan service, but has no intention of actually following through.

ETA: there's another way some authors will handle the "what do I do with the extra chick in the party" question, which is to justify the sabotage as meaningful sacrifice. (The women in Naruto, and Lenalee, get set up for this repeatedly.) The method is this: by some means, the warrior-damsel does take on (and frequently then proceeds to kick serious ass of) a pretty scary big bad -- but in the course of doing so, is either: pushed past her limits and burnt out (Sakura, Tokine), if she's not injured to the point of comatose (thus rendering her not just injured but pretty much a NPC for the rest of the fight, cf Lenalee).

The storyteller's rationalization, as I see it, is thus: every fight must have both a physical climax and an emotional one. The physical, of course, is obvious; the emotional may differ each time. The latter will show up as "what are you fighting for?" or "is this really important enough reason to fight?" or even "do you really have it in you to kill someone?"

A favorite trope of Japanese animanga is the "I fight to protect those precious to me" (well, actually, this is probably a pretty common fight-justification in stories the world over, now that I think about it). If your character is going into a fight and you want emotional conflict along with physical, the lowest-hanging fruit is definitely the "why would you fight this hard?" The character, naturally, will doubt himself suddenly, but hey, look, there! His female teammate fought and gave it her all -- whether now she's injured and rooting for him, or injured and needing his protection (since the author has now rendered her not just badly hurt but also suddenly stupid in terms of any remaining self-defense skills), or just plain out cold. In short, her sacrifice inspires him while at the same time providing an object lesson in "the reason why he fights so hard" -- to protect girls his friends from going through such pain.

Which I think can have its place in stories, and is certainly a valid point in any action-based bildungsroman, but it gets tiresome when you realize that the sacrifice-and-example is pretty much always played by the action-girl, and frequently it's the only role the action-girl can even play. For all the homoerotic subtext some fans want to see, it's actually not very common to see a male character throw himself head-first against overwhelming odds for the sake of an injured or comatose male team-mate or friend. (The various Gundam series and Naruto are major exceptions, though, which might be why they also subtextually hit a lot of buttons, too, because they capitalize on tropes that are more often male-female in other stories.)

As a footnote to all of the above, one thing I've noticed increasing is the number of mangaka who seem to try and balance "lesser physical power" with "greater ruthlessness". Tokine in Kekkaishi is an absolutely stellar example of this, with absolutely no mercy while her male counterpart is really a softie. Sakura shows major signs of ruthlessness, too, but she's not without some modicum of compassion.

The animanga I recall from the 90s and early aughts, the girl's more likely to be a blowhard about having no sympathy for the enemy, but at the last minute! she can't bring herself to fire! and the hero thus must step in. The updated version is that the girl has no qualms about going for the jugular... if only the author hadn't set up the premise or circumstances to make sure she wouldn't actually have enough muscle/power behind her punch. It's like, well, now she's given the opportunity and guts to shoot -- except the author took all her ammunition away.

All these are just more reasons on the list of why I love Balsa and Gen. Oliva Armstrong so much.

Date: 19 Sep 2010 06:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ravenbell
A couple of thoughts from an old school otaku.

The exact same trope exists, gender reversed, in most shojo series like "Cardcaptor Sakura," "Sailor Moon," and "Princess Tutu." The trouble is that shojo have all but disappeared in recent years, subsumed by the moe/cute girl and josei/young woman genres. Most of the fantasy and action shows popular in the West just aren't aimed at girls of this age group. The only recent shonen I can think of that has a true female lead is "Soul Hunter," which has Maka, who still has to share the role with a lot of others.

If you look back at the 80s and early 90s, the action girls were everywhere - "Bubblegum Crisis," "Dirty Pair," "Patlabor," "Armitage," "Iria," and "Slayers" - but they were mostly seinen and comedy heroines. I think their disappearance in favor of moe girls has a lot to do with the changing demographics of anime - the industry is now pandering to the hardcore otaku base a lot harder than they used to, and shojo never sold very well in the West.

When you get away from the typical cookie-cutter Shonen Jump-style titles, you do get some stronger supporting girls like Yoko from "Gurren Lagaan" and Re-L from "Ergo Proxy," but you really have to look for them.

Date: 20 Sep 2010 12:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ravenbell
Fansubbers are largely tech-savvy youngsters who jump on the popular stuff. You'll find a dozen versions of the latest shonen within hours of broadcast, but good luck with the comedy and kids' shows. I've been out of the loop so I haven't seen the state of shojo lately, but the pickings were very slim two-three years ago, especially if you weren't into the mellower slice-of-life shows. There are still some fansubber troopers out there who are working on ancient, obscure stuff like "Goldfish Warning!" that will never be licensed here in a million years - the shows that actually *need* fansubs - but you don't hear much about them in the wider fandom.

I don't know what happened in the late 90s that took us from Utena and Faye Valentine to the moeblob invasion, but I strongly suspect the "Lost Decade" recession has something to do with it. I think the culture always gets more conservative and reactionary when a country feels economically threatened. Also, the demographics have changed. Anime watchers in the 80s were college-age kids, especially in the West. You seriously had to network just to get access to nth-generation VHS fansubs. Now the audience is typically teens or younger.

Date: 28 Sep 2010 02:29 pm (UTC)
lady_ganesh: A Clue card featuring Miss Scarlett. (conrad is awesome (KKM))
From: [personal profile] lady_ganesh
Total side note, but Gravitation of all things also had a pretty nice set of notes in their release about the translation choices, some of the Japanese-centric jokes, etc.

Date: 25 Sep 2010 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamerterra.livejournal.com
I think that Yoko is probably a really good example of this trope (Though I'm only a couple of episodes past the anti-spirals turning up, so that might change.) Right at the beginning she's on par with the boys, then they get their gunmen and do the epic while she shoots minions, and then when she pilots Gurran, she gets injured and Simon has to protect her.

Date: 26 Sep 2010 09:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ingvild
Psst - it's "Soul Eater", not "Soul Hunter".

Interesting point. I wanted to say something about shows that fuse the moe with the action girl, and then I realised that I can't think of any besides Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha.

Date: 26 Sep 2010 11:08 pm (UTC)
waterfall8484: An elouai doll maker approximation of what I look like. (Long, brown hair in pigtails, glasses, a slightly cheeky look.) (Me by waterfall8484)
From: [personal profile] waterfall8484
Hey, I was going to mention Nanoha! *grins*

I can't think of anything else either, especially not anything recent, since I can never manage to stay up to date on animanga stuff.

Date: 27 Sep 2010 10:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] waterfall8484
True. :~D I think it's sad that there seems to be more old series that try to avoid this trope, as it is only another sign of the dwindling of good female roles in large parts of Western (and apparently also Eastern?) media.

Btw, I love your icon. Is it from anywhere in particular? It rings a very vague bell.

Date: 27 Sep 2010 03:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hymnia
Interesting point. I wanted to say something about shows that fuse the moe with the action girl, and then I realised that I can't think of any besides Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha.

Yeah, I feel like I've seen this a few times, but the only example I can think of off the top of my head is Gakuen Alice.

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