kaigou: so when do we destroy the world already? (3 destroy the world)
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note: uncharacteristically, I wasn't inclined to or wasn't up to or whatever other lack o' motivation, thus in writing this I found myself without the energy to spell everything out as I might normally do -- so if there are any blanks for you (history-wise, mostly), please refer to the comments, where others have taken the time to carefully delineate what I let pass with vague implication. I know, unlike me! But still. I can't always be writing 10-page posts at the drop of a hat.

If you've watched your share of mecha (and related) anime, you've probably seen this trope several times, maybe even enough to know it by heart: madman acting out of self-proclaimed altruistic means, which usually amounts to, "if I destroy the world by (a) dropping a big honking meteor/planet/space-colony (b) launching a massive mushroom-bomb of horrendous power (c) whipping up the entire world against me so it stops fighting each other and instead fights only me whereupon I crush everyone (d) ending the world as we know it by some other means (e) pretty much killing everyone and blaming it all on the two-step maneuver of war and peace because anyone with a clue knows "rebellion" is just a self-justified synonym for war, you morons who can't count..."

...and that by doing so, WE GET PEACE.

Because, apparently, if you're a self-proclaimed lover-of-humanity with psychotic but ultimately altruistic intentions, of course it's perfectly logical to you that if you burn everyone's retinas with the ultimate war, that they'll all immediately come to their senses and want peace at any cost. And that of course, humanity has always become immediately pacifist upon surviving a horrendous war of attrition. I mean, look at World War I -- boy, Europe and the Americas were just swept by a craze of pacifism as a result!

Not.

This is not logic that resembles my earth logic, but then, a lot of anime doesn't resemble my culture earth, either.

Anyway. That's the basic logic: you've got your Gundams drop-the-colony versions, you've got your "I'm so depressed the whole world should suffer along with me" variation a la Eureka Seven, hell, even Naruto's gotten into the act with a combination of both of the above. In the end, it's all different harmonies to the same melody, that if one achieves peace through war, ergo a really BIG war should bring about a really BIG peace.

That was in my head, with some amusement at the lack of parallel, when reading the FMA manga (and then seeing it replayed in the second anime; the first anime varied, obviously, in some intriguing ways but that's for another post). That is: Arakawa does not do the fuck-for-virginity war-for-peace routine of so many others in the animanga world. She does ask, seems to me, whether a science (such as that of war) can be neutral in and of itself, and evil or good dependent on intentions, but she doesn't play the game of having some power-hungry madman claim god's light and altruism blah blah blah with the goal of achieving peace. No, her madmen are most definitely using the people's sacrifice as tools, and nothing more.

Tangent: what I find most interesting, actually, about Arakawa's apparent stance that alchemy (read: science) is a neutral art is that she doesn't disregard the origins of the science. If a science were truly neutral, then intentions would not only rule but might even rule out previous negative intentions -- which is the usual justification for using what had been a negative item/act but instead using it for good. (Gundam does this all the time, flipping the "massive weapon built for warfare" into "massive weapon that's now good by virtue -- pun intended -- of being piloted by one whose heart is pure AND who uses it only to protect the people, etc, etc.")

Arakawa doesn't take that route; if she had, Edward's lesson in the end would've been that he could use either a freely-gifted philosopher's stone (someone else's, or his own father's), because Edward's own intention-for-good outweighs the means by which the stone was created. Arakawa stops short of total neutrality for science, even when the intention is about as pure as you can get and the once-destructive force is even potentially willing to be re-used. I find it intriguing that Edward's position is that something once made via evil/sacrificial/destructive means cannot be rendered positive/constructive simply by a later user's intentions. This position is seen as counter-productive, even self-defeating by the rest of the characters, but the text seems pretty clear about Edward and Alphonse being in the 'right' on this.

Awful lot of science fiction stories (anime and elsewhere), and no few fantasy stories, too, would find their resolutions cut out from under them if everyone were so strict about the entire process as were Edward and Alphonse.

Back to what I was saying: in every anime I can think of in which we have this big-war-big-peace argument, god is mentioned at some point, if not several times. Now, I'm going with translated texts here, it's true, but I can still recognize "kami" when I hear it spoken, and I've been told by many people (Japanese and students of the same) that this isn't really a word that's thrown around in the culture. In comparison to Western, that is, where you'll frequently hear people toss off variations and slang-cousins of 'god', 'jesus', 'holymothermaryofgod'. English is a language that uses such expressions as a matter of course, and a lot of that has to do with a long history of being judeo-christian, and you can fill in the blanks on the rest of this so I don't have to, right.

In contrast, I'm told the average Japanese person seems to be more likely to lean towards a state of areligiousity, not as people per se but in terms of how they define their culture: a place or way of being in which "god" is not really the crucial centerpoint of their lives as it is in the judeo-christian West. Or to put it this way: even when we Westerners, as individuals, consider ourselves somewhat less religious (or not at all), we can't deny we're living in cultures that remain strongly religious in many ways, such that it permeates our lives in spite of us, even despite us. That makes a Japanese animanga character spouting off about god rather... well, let's just say I've learned it's a kind of dogwhistle for 'western concepts' or 'western culture' or 'western perspective'.

I'm not saying that's bad or good, only that it seems meant to indicate that the culture represented in the anime is more influenced by Western notions than by Japanese -- which is why it's of particular interest, I think, that when I can recall characters going on and on about "god is on my side" and "this is god's way" and all that dreck, it's also invariably the justification used by the same madman who's about to unleash total war on the unsuspecting and unwitting sacrificial victims.

Note, too, that this is another major element in the "drop a space-colony on you to teach you a lesson" trope: that the thus western-implied god-talking self-proclaimed altruistic madman is also, thus, setting up the soon-to-be-pulverized regular citizens as the victims. That despite the seemingly benevolent (in the sense of benevolent dictatorship, but that's just semantics when it's thirty seconds to impact) intentions, we almost always see the citizens as desperately attempting to flee, and we're supposed to feel for their terror and horror at this world-sized larning about to be dropped on their collective heads. We don't see them as warmongering monsters who need this lesson before they'll be stopped; the stories are almost always set up to see the people as helpless, harmless, essentially good humans who are peaceful at heart.

Hello, victim-trope, good to see you again!

There's no doubt that Arakawa plays the victim-trope in that sense, because with each instance of genocide, her text makes it clear that there's no excuse nor rationalization for decimating an entire population. But, and I think this is very important, she never puts a madman front and center to proclaim he (or more rarely, she) is doing this for "the world's good" -- no, Arakawa's madmen don't give a rat's ass about the world's good, or ill, or anything.

So, first deviation: the madmen may be mad, but the average citizen is completely clueless. Leading off that, the madmen are planning world destruction (or at least their half) but it's not to teach anyone a lesson, nor to lead the world into a better tomorrow. It's purely selfish; it's destruction and sacrifice of many for the sake of a few.

But this is where the god-issue comes into it, because there's one area I do recall well enough from my studies (which if you don't recall, were originally in 20th European Theology, and two of the biggest shapers of European judeo-christian theology were world war the first and world war the second). And it's something you can't miss if you've spent any time delving into the history between the wars and leading into the second, if you ever happen to sidestep into discussions of who enabled Hitler's regime -- scratch a little, and you'll find the Catholic Church and the Lutheran Church, although the Lutheran Church underwent the biggest changes in its liturgy to amalgamate itself with Nazi policies.

Not that this is such a shock, seeing how xtianity (and islam, too) frequently merged the religious with secular to present an argument of "god is on our side". It's a frequent refrain, over and over in Western civilization, justifying this, rationalizing that. I bring that up because if Amestris were an analogue to Germany, then it would fit perfectly to have Amestris' leaders spout lines not unlike Cornello's in the first two chapters. It would match the analogue: that it's right to massacre Ishval on religious grounds, that it's right to follow Amestrian leaders because god-is-on-our-side... yet I don't recall either of those. Hell, I recall vaguely some of the justifications for the Ishval massacre but I don't recall that it was necessarily because Amestris-god-is-bigger-than-Ishval-god. For that matter, I don't recall if the stated reasons were even religious, so much as general-culture.

In other words: the analogue of Germany stops short when you get to the religious elements, though you could say it comes through loud and clear on racial terms.

However, there's only two instances I can think of where Arakawa mentions any kind of religion at all. The first is with the Church of Cornello, which shows the trappings of quasi-Western judeo-christian design (Cornello's jacket is a mix of a Nehru jacket and a truncated Jesuit cassock, complete with stole; the church design is definitely Western cathedral despite the Poseidon-looking statue of Leto). No bones are made about the fact that this monotheistic religion is total crock, created solely for Cornello's own glorification -- and it's of note, I think, that Cornello meets his end at the hands of the Sins, but more on that in a bit.

The other major religion with any play in the story is Ishbal, Ishval, Ishvar, however we're saying it this week. Not only does it have strong desert-religion trappings reminiscent of early Islam (or possibly ancient Judaism, considering that once or twice I could've sworn some of the coat/drapings could've passed for the design usually used to illustrate the proverbial coat-of-many-colors) -- but it's also anti-alchemy, maybe anti-scientific, but also -- and this is important -- predominantly pacifist or at least peace-loving, and less technologically advanced. It's also monotheistic, though I can't recall there being a great deal of exposition on the exact nature of the Ishvallan religion, only that it's used as a contrast to the generally agnostic/areligious Amestris.

Take all that together, stir well, and you might be starting to get a taste of the pie I think I might be making: if the corollary here is some kind of vague Germany-analogue of a mix-up of WWI and WWII, yet told through the lens of someone whose culture puts a hell of a lot through the lens of Japan's own experiences of the first half of the 20th century, then I think Amestris is a stand-in for Germany is a stand-in for Japan. That's how you get the destruction of its own citizens, but without the historical enabling of the god-on-our-side proposed in pulpits as rationalization for actions (admittedly on the side of the Axis and the side of the Allies, it's a thing we do in the West, it seems).

Instead... in Arakawa's mash-up analogue: the military is sacrificing its own citizens for the glory of the military and its leader and no other -- something that might've passed by me without much comment a month ago but after the history-sink of Senkou no Night Raid it's suddenly in sharp focus. The military's own goals, for the military's own glory, done at the cost of the citizenry and possibly with full knowledge of the costs the citizenry might eventually bear, but who cares? The military certainly doesn't.

And if that's not enough, consider that it's Ishval's unexpected eleventh-hour cooperation that makes it possible to overturn and defeat these plans of genocide. In other words, what I'm seeing is this: the monotheistic pacifist culture is not the one justifying the destruction but the one preventing it, and it's the country's own military -- and the Sins, in the shape of military secret intelligence? -- who are driving the country towards such destruction.

Now that's a flip on the usual... especially when you add in that if the Sins are the analogue for military secret police/intelligence, they're the ones who not only take out Cornello (after Edward walks away), but also create unrest in Liore and are the ones who ostensibly set match to fuse to light up the Ishbal massacre. In other words, a police/intelligence with absolutely no regard for the people, but even more pointedly, a force that wipes out all competing religions (other than jingoism), regardless of whether they're true or false.

Something for contemplation, but curious -- and neatly parallel -- all the same.

Wah. It just makes me wish all the more I had at least a smattering of Japanese, to be able to write Arakawa and tell her about how I've got a little shrine to her brain, right here beside me in my office, because what a brain it is. Man, I've not thought this much about a series after it's ended since, uhm... never Gundam. Okay, since Gundam, but I defend that on the grounds that Gundam was my first introduction to the madman-says-BIG-war-makes-BIG-peace trope, so I guess an evolution to the next level naturally gets me going all over again.

Date: 29 Jul 2010 09:49 pm (UTC)
starlady: Roy from FMA: "you say you want a revolution" (roy)
From: [personal profile] starlady
Nope, Hokkaidou. Her parents are dairy farmers (hence her cow avatar).

What stands out in this case is that Arakawa's parallax acts as a kind of exception to the rule, showing how rare it is, otherwise, for pop-culture animanga to question those wartime/post-war myths.

Yes, exactly. Which I think is where your example of the Jefferson/Hemmings miniseries is inexact--there are precious few anime and manga that deal directly with the war (Barefoot Gen and Grave of the Fireflies stand out, but those don't question the received view of the war), and FMA is notable because it does take a nuanced, realistic view of war and because it does question the received views. But because that nuanced view is set in a secondary world, the issue of allegory does crop up--I don't think it's an allegory, but I've read a few interviews in which people do raise that question. (I'm kind of reminded of JRR Tolkien being asked and denying that LotR was an allegory for the Great War.)

Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:41 am (UTC)
starlady: Roy from FMA: "you say you want a revolution" (roy)
From: [personal profile] starlady
In that sense, FMA would fail utterly in terms of how allegory most often uses its symbolism to present a moralistic interpretation because the lesson is, well, non-apology, some-scapegoating, and otherwise-seamless-transfer is the proper ending: that if this maps to Japan's behavior before/during war (at least insofar as the military) then its conclusion is that Japan's hush-up at the end was the proper thing to do. The tone in the manga/anime seems entirely unironic, delivered straight-up, so I don't think it's meant as a criticism of the new administration's choices, but as a rather Japanese presentation (as I understand the socio-cultural motivations/psychology) that just letting bygones be bygones is the best and fastest method to return to harmony, which is more important than truth.

That scene in volume 16 where Hawkeye says that they'd all be liable to be brought to trial for war crimes if they left the military still brings me up short every time.

I actually wrote a paper on the Tokyo Tribunals, and if anything I think the fact that there are no reconciliation commissions in FMA is a sign of the fact that essentially no one was satisfied with the Tribunals' outcome.

That entire situation, in the year or so after 9/11, seems to have had a major, if unexpected, impact on Japan's cultural self-assumptions, and I guess reading about its impact on the pop culture made me more sensitive to seeing those questions raised, if subtly, in other pop-culture stories, as well.

Thinking about it more now, it seems even more obvious that you're right; and this has to be part of why the manga was so popular in Japan, because ultimately as Arakawa says the manga is in part an exploration of what going to war means, for the people who fight and for those who don't, on both sides. And the desire for peace is real in Japan--as much as the "victim mentality" phrase gets tossed around, it would be wrong to overlook the fact that the end of the war did produce a sincere desire for peace in a good many people, and that history still does, and that the Koizumi and Abe governments' logistical and manpower assistance to the U.S. military, as well as other incidents (particularly the Japanese journalists who were kidnapped in Baghdad) were strongly opposed, particularly at the urban grassroots level. It didn't escape the notice of people that many of the people bringing Japan back into war and talking about dismantling the peace constitution were the same people, or descendants of people, who'd taken the country to war in the C20th, too--particularly Abe, whose grandfather Kishi pushed the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty with automatic renewal through the Diet in 1960 (quite literally pushed--he had to be carried to the podium by Diet security through the crowd of rioting lawmakers, while thousands of people protested outside; and the deciding vote was technically out of order) and who was himself a former Class A war criminal. So the generals in Amestris knowingly provoking conflicts with their neighbors has multiple resonances.

Anyway, yeah. Such a great manga, so many layers.

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