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warnings: argument, implied angst
pairings: implied 3+4
rating: PG-13
for Raletha and Windsorblue, and please don't shoot me.

Written after a passing comment about Quatre's and Trowa's relationship, more realistically, hardly being a lovey-dovey affair all the time. That stuck in my head, and this is what happened.

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Trowa made sure the newspaper was folded so the headline faced out, and he sat waiting, facing the door of the condo. A half-hour passed while he studied the business articles, brainstormed on his recent cases, and watched the clock. At eight, Quatre came through the door, kicking it shut with a weary expression as he dropped his briefcase. His first action, as always, was to come give Trowa a quick kiss before stripping off his tie and dropping it on the sofa, then turning to sit on the back as he pulled off his shoes, leaving them where they lay.

"Are you going to put those away?" Trowa turned the page in the newspaper, and began reading about the latest developments in the hydroelectric dam outside Sanq's capital city.

Quatre didn't move for a second, then he bent over, picking up his shoes and his tie with a disgruntled expression. He disappeared into the bedroom, where Trowa could hear drawers opening and closing. A few minutes later Quatre reappeared in old blue jeans and a gray sweatshirt with grease stains from one of Duo's mechanical projects. Quatre collapsed onto the sofa, then craned his neck to give Trowa a tired smile.

"Did you eat already?"

"Mm-hmm." Trowa glanced at him sideways, with a quick smile. "Heero and I grabbed something when our shift ended."

"You missed lunch again," Quatre guessed.

Trowa shrugged.

"Okay." Quatre sighed deeply, and put a hand on his forehead. "What is it now?"

"What's that supposed to mean?"

"You have that look."

Trowa considered that carefully. "I do not."

"Yes, you do." Quatre covered his eyes, then pinched the bridge of his nose. "Just say it, and then I can go reheat leftovers with some peace of mind."

"Fine." Trowa held up the newspaper, turned to show the headline: WEI LAYS OFF SIXTY THOUSAND. "What's this about?"

"Oh." Quatre shrugged. "We've got to close two mining satellites."

"And that's the most you can say?" Trowa frowned when Quatre shrugged again, looking away. "That's not just sixty thousand people. That's them, and their families, and all the businesses that exist to support them. A single satellite might exist for your family's business but the population on them is easily in the two hundred thousands—"

"It's a done deal." Quatre came to his feet, waving Trowa's words away. "I'm starving."

"And you're going to be forcing a lot of families into starving, as well." Trowa folded the newspaper back with a snap, and set it on the side table. He could feel Quatre halting in the doorway to the kitchen, but he didn't turn around.

"Trowa," Quatre replied, evenly. "This is business. Yes, I regret that the mining satellite has passed its peak. But the economics of the situation are too simple to ignore, and I'm not a charity."

"You always say it's a family business. Aren't these people your family? They've been working for the Winners for three generations—"

"What do you want from me?" Quatre laughed, softly, but bitterly. "I've been over this with the board a dozen times. Times change. Sacrifices must be made—"

"By them, never by you." Trowa didn't care if he had begun to sound petulant; he'd researched the situation carefully. WEI was cutting its losses well before it had even risked a long glance at the red. Quatre's family had gotten to where it was by taking risks, and now it wouldn't take so much as a single step across the street without thinking fifteen times, twenty studies, and downsizing first.

"You'd better not be suggesting I take a cut in pay," Quatre retorted, a churlish tone in his voice. "I work eighty hour weeks for this company. I deserve every penny."

"I didn't say that. I just think—"

"I don't think you do. Seems to me you always have a lot to say about how I run my business, and I really don't get why you have to backseat drive me on it. When we met, you knew I was a businessman—"

"No, no, I did not." Trowa came to his feet, angry, but still quiet-voiced. "I knew you were a pilot who was willing to move heaven and earth to help those who had no voice."

Quatre opened his mouth, eyes wide, then closed his mouth, looking away. "I'm not fifteen any more. And I'm not just piloting some hulking machine, I'm running a multi-billion-dollar business. You and the rest of the bleeding hearts would want me to—"

"Now I'm a bleeding heart?" Trowa shook his head. "You've met with the board a dozen times? Meet another dozen times. You could build ZERO from scratch with no engineering expertise, why can't you find a way that doesn't involve throwing nearly a quarter of a million people out into the cold?"

"It doesn't work that way," Quatre replied, through gritted teeth. "Stop acting like I'm the bad guy, here. Not every one goes home happy at the end of the day, and I'd think you understand that, Commander."

"I don't make a habit of throwing the good guys in prison," Trowa snapped. "There's no comparison."

"You uphold laws that are archaic and convoluted, changing daily based on some political—"

"This isn't about me, damn it," Trowa burst out. "This is about the fact that you're not willing to take a risk and try something—"

"Me? Not take risks?" Quatre's tone became flat, and displeased. "You forget who you're talking to."

"No, I know exactly who I'm talking to," Trowa shot back. "Some washed-up businessman who doesn't mind that his reputation has Gundam Pilot stuck at the end, but who is more interested in clinging to his family's money than trying to find a new solution to old rules. The pilot I fell in love with would never accept that sacrifices must be made for the sake of a pile of cash—"

"The pilot you fell in love with could never have provided the life you've had, not on your government salary!"

"Fuck you and your goddamn money," Trowa shouted, not caring when Quatre flinched. "I didn't fall in love with you when you were rich, but when you had nothing, and if that's all you'd ever had, I would've been—"

"And you call me an idealist?" Quatre asked, incredulously. "What do you think pays the bills? How do you think we afforded—"

"We could do all this with a lot less money. We don't need this money, or this condo, or this view, or this leather sofa or the marble in the foyer or the three extra bedrooms or the—"

"What's the point?" Quatre turned away. "I'm getting something to eat. I'm not having this argument on an empty stomach."

Trowa snorted, and in three strides was across the room, taking his coat from the closet. "We won't have it at all, then, but I'm not going to have my name attached to someone who can toss away so many lives without even trying to come up with—"

"How little faith do you have in me? How can you possibly see them as so valuable, and not see that I've tried my best?"

"Because they don't have a voice, Quatre." Trowa pulled on his jacket with stiff, angry movements. "You have money to buy a city if you want, people will listen to you. Those folks you want to fire, and everyone who counts on them—they don't get a say in your board meetings. Once you stood for people like that." He slammed the closet door shut and picked up his keys. "Now you just screw them over."

"Trowa—"

"I'll be at Wufei's. Don't wait up." Trowa slammed the front door behind him, and took a second to exhale through his nose. Only once he stood at the elevator did he look down at the keys in his hand, and wanted to laugh. He'd picked up the spare keys to Duo's apartment, and not the keys to his motorcycle.

Didn't it just figure, but then, maybe the ten-block walk to Wufei's would do him some good.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rurounitriv.livejournal.com
Ouch. I can see that argument happening too. :(

Date: 23 Dec 2005 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Definitely not all love and roses, people. They may be a great deal alike in some ways, but in other ways? Not even close, and not because one was born rich and one born poor, but I suspect that would wear on the relationship just as much.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windsorblue.livejournal.com
...there's more to this, right? Like, a couple more arguments, a bit of angry!sex, another argument, Quatre doing something noble just to prove Trowa wrong, makeup!sex, another argument...

Just a suggestion. ^__^

Date: 23 Dec 2005 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Unh hunh. Y'know, it's people like you who completely screw up my attempts to write SHORT STORIES.

Make-up sex. >.>

Mmmhm.

We'll see. Hm. Trade ya a chapter of Grotesque for that.

Hah!

Date: 23 Dec 2005 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shin-yuy.livejournal.com
i like this bartering system...

Date: 23 Dec 2005 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windsorblue.livejournal.com
>.> How about the completely wrong and not ready for prime time "I Love Lucy" fusion? Because with all the ml conversation of late, I'm feeling a powerful urge to mock me some stereotypes.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Unh-hunh. No make-up sex for you until I see more Grotesque!

though I could be mollified with a chapter for Most Eligible Bachelor.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windsorblue.livejournal.com
*chokes*

Yeah...hey, look! Halley's Comet!

Date: 24 Dec 2005 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
*gooses you*

Date: 23 Dec 2005 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharona1x2.livejournal.com
Don't worry about those guys wanting to shoot you. Worry about me. I've become so fond of these two together in the past year. ^___^

Seriously, this was good. It's definitely a different take on them than a lot of what I've read. I like that the angst is not because of another person. This is much more interesting, IMO.

I'd like to see more.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Guah! Which part of ONE SHOT does no one get? I just wanted to demonstrate an argument! I've not even finished KmO or Howl!

*wails*

Date: 23 Dec 2005 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharona1x2.livejournal.com
No one says you have to do it today. Or tomorrow. Or even next month. We'll be patient. Good things are worth waiting for. *pets*

Date: 23 Dec 2005 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Unh-hunh. I see how it is. I'll just be surfing the net, minding my own business, and come around the corner to find one of you with binoculars, attempted to read my computer screen to see if I'm working on a continuation.

*peers around suspiciously*

I should know better than to post one-shots, even to illustrate a point...

Date: 23 Dec 2005 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharona1x2.livejournal.com
come around the corner to find one of you with binoculars, attempted to read my computer screen to see if I'm working on a continuation.

Don't be silly. Why would we do that when we already have Detta on our payroll? ^_~

There are no such things as one-shots. Those are prologues in disguise, waiting to be continued.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthanne.livejournal.com
There is more to this, right? I'd love to see Quatre show Trowa that he hasn't got the full story, because I can't see Quatre just firing people like that without one hell of a lot of internal angst.

Arguments often happen because of lack of communication. You've shown that really well in this.

Thanks for taking the time to write this and show that their relationship is not all sweet and fluffy.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharona1x2.livejournal.com
I'd love to see Quatre show Trowa that he hasn't got the full story

I was thinking the exact same thing. ^_~

Date: 23 Dec 2005 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
I actually can't see Quatre angsting internally or externally even an iota more than he thinks the situation requires. He is the one, after all, who asks for surrender and then mows everyone down; if the choice is made, he makes it, and doesn't look back. He may be sweet and gentle to the people he knows, but he's also got serious ruthless bastard potential. Seems to me it's Trowa who'd be pulling at him to look again, to always weigh the personal in the situation.

Hah, sweet and fluffy. Yeah, that's me all over. *snicker*

Date: 23 Dec 2005 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinotori.livejournal.com
Ooooooooooh. This is great. And... you don't intend to just leave it at that, right? The others get a word in, and there's more, more shouting and political stuff and and...

...and my imagination is running off with me again, but anyway -- I really, really enjoyed it, and I never cease to be amazed at how realistic your boys-then-men appear. Great!

Date: 23 Dec 2005 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Right, and then, THE MAKE-UP SEX.

I see how you people are!

ONE-SHOT. ONE-SHOT. if I just keep repeating it, maybe it'll become true, because it's not like anyone's listening ONE SHOT. ONE-SHOT.

*flails*

Date: 23 Dec 2005 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinotori.livejournal.com
Err. The bit about the make-up sex? Not complaining. *grins*

Uhm... One-shot. Okay. Okay! Are we going to get more one-shots like this one, though? ;D

SCNR -- you just write the best Rahmenhandlung (err... like, main plot? Plot-on-top-of-plot? I'd look it up, but LEO WON'T LOAD. You get the idea, though) I know. And this could make another one of those.

...uhm. yes. Shutting, shutting! ;)

Date: 24 Dec 2005 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
SCNR? Do you mean subplots?

Date: 24 Dec 2005 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinotori.livejournal.com
The "could not resist" part was about the begging for more. I shouldn't be allowed near a comment box past 12 a.m. (~_~;)

According to LEO, what I mean(t) was/is "background story" (which is not what I mean) or "story which forms the framework", which comes closer but isn't quite accurate either. Background plot, perhaps? Like... the entire setting, and all that stuff that forms the base of the story. Uhm. Confusing? I know I'm confusing myself right now -- just take it that you rock at writing them. :D

Date: 23 Dec 2005 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nataliethompson.livejournal.com
Funny, I'd like it if Trowa did have the full story, and Quatre was just being an ass. I like it when he's an ass. It makes me feel like all my rants on stupid rich people are perfectly correct. ^^;; I love Quatre, but sometimes....grr...

It would be wonderful as a one-shot, but hey, a multi-part series would be awesome too. (just as long as Quatre's dead, dead wrong!) Remember, though, you still have to work on KmO. So no pressure. *winks*

Awesome writing, as always!!

Date: 23 Dec 2005 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
I had actually been trying to politely ignore that subtext in the responses, that Quatre must have angsted over this to some degree and if he just explains to Trowa, then it'd be revealed he really is making the right choice. The corrollary to such subtext, however much it wants to beleive that Quatre is one of the Good Guys, is that Trowa isn't bright enough or sharp enough or knowledgeable enough to make such a declaration on Quatre, even though I'd put it right there in the piece: ...he'd researched the situation carefully. WEI was cutting its losses well before it had even risked a long glance at the red. The assumption that Quatre must be in the right, by my sights, means Trowa must be not only in the wrong, but moreso for questioning Quatre and his abilities.

But if it makes you feel any better, while I was writing it, I was thinking: Quatre is so completely wrong about this, and it's time Trowa called him on it.

Date: 24 Dec 2005 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nataliethompson.livejournal.com
is that Trowa isn't bright enough or sharp enough or knowledgeable enough to make such a declaration on Quatre

Oh, I think you have my feelings about this down. It's absolutely true; why is it that Quatre has to be right? If Quatre's proved right...well, that kind of kills the tenseness, the feeling here. Quatre has to be wrong, for once. Sometimes storytelling is meant to expose the little bit of ugliness in people. That's what makes it a great story. If you actually went and changed it around for Quatre to be right, then you would not only be hurting Trowa's character--he *is* knowledgeable enough, he *is* bright enough--but also the effectiveness of the story. It's effective because it shows that side of their relationship. Quatre is not perfect. Trowa isn't a moron for being born lower-class. And they don't always agree. So that's that. Still a great couple, but hey, that's life! You did a great job on this fic because you showed that side of them without trying to fix it up to make it look all pretty. Flaws are flaws...and characters wouldn't be worth reading about without them.

Funny, as I was writing this I came along your other post, in which Misanagi replied that we see what we want to see in the GW boys. You know what, that's true. And I'm wondering what my own reply says about me now...*grins* I love Quatre, I do. Maybe it's my sense of justice that saw Trowa as fighting for the common people, or maybe it's that I don't necessarily need a happy ending in every story I read. But I saw what I saw in this fic, and others saw something else because it's all perspective. (Still, I'm glad this is one of the times when I can say, yeah, I saw just what the author intended to show. A fight like any other, a bump in the perfect relationship. Quatre and Trowa are sweethearts, but they have their arguments too.)

Date: 25 Dec 2005 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
It's not like "what a person reads" is really within my control; we do interpret through the lens of our own expectations and experiences. The difficulty in fanfic is that our expectations are laden with a great deal more baggage than if I were to ask people to read this story as just two people arguing. I suspect in that case there'd be a great deal more people lambasting Quatre for being an asshole, and wondering why Trowa puts up with him!

And don't it just show that when I get truly pissed off at the fandom, I write. Figures.

Date: 23 Dec 2005 08:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sevenall.livejournal.com
I really like the story because this is Quatre and Trowa being who they are, which has to clash sometimes. Different convictions, some irreconciliable differences and a relationship steady enough to allow them to disagree as violently as they like and still come back to each other.

Date: 24 Dec 2005 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
It's the "relationship steady enough" that's the important part. It's hard to get a feeling for that when all you have is about a thousand words, especially when I just wanted to show -- really, my ENTIRE point was to show -- that they could argue, and feasibly have a number of things to argue about. And that one person storming out after an argument was also likely, if it came to that.

I'm still not gonna write a second part.

No.

Nuh-unh.

No way.

*glares*

Date: 24 Dec 2005 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saekokato.livejournal.com
You just keep telling yourself that, hun. ^^

(Loved it, by the way.)

Date: 31 Dec 2005 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raletha.livejournal.com
Okay, I am finally reading! (And thank you for the dedication.) I can actually see both characters' perspectives here, so I'd venture to say that neither is truly wrong, and their argument is at least in part a result of starting from different axioms and having different goals. But then, that is a very real form of conflict, and to be honest, the inter-personal conflict I prefer to read and write is of that nature, because we don't (despite the proclamations of some current politicians :P) live in a world of black and white.

Date: 1 Jan 2006 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Well, you three (and Zania) are among The Names when anyone mentions Quatre or Trowa. I really dislike writing conflict where one person has no true motivation except to block the first person's forward progress. That's not conflict; that's just bad writing (or alternately, a recalcitrant personality). Writing conflict where one person says, "I want this," and the other person simply says, "you can't have it" -- as opposed to "I want that," and it's in direct conflict with the first person's wanting -- is just boring: to read, and to write, as I'm sure you know.

What I found odd were the folks who preferred to find the person with whom they sympathized, which is true for every reader, but in fanfiction because we come with pre-disposed tendencies to lean towards supporting this character versus that one, it's all the more telling, sometimes.

Date: 1 Jan 2006 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raletha.livejournal.com
I'm a Name? Erp. When did that happen? I'm so used to not being noticed all that much over here in my little quiet corner. Okay, I am officially weirded out for the evening! :P

And I quite agree about the conflict issue. ^_^ Also, since my Quatre reads Machiavelli, I can easily see him having a very ruthless strategic business mind. And I have such a soft spot for Trowa being the more idealistic, innocent, even naive, one in this argument. Because as far as the real world is, he *is*.

Date: 1 Jan 2006 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
I've always felt Trowa was a bit too perceptive -- a necessary mark of a good infiltrator -- to be truly innocent, let alone naive. I'd say he's simply more hopeful than the rest. And, when he's lost hope, he loses all will to keep going; then again, my theory on his willingness to commit suicide as the "final gesture" of a soldier was partly out of hero/heero worship/emulation, and partly out of his own sense of having no hope, and nowhere to run, and any move he makes puts the colonies in danger. Rather than let innocents be hurt, he'd rather just bow out of the picture, and that is a far more idealistic stance than we see from the other pilots, since it has less room to maneuver, less room for compromise.

It may also be one of the reasons he tells Wufei to be kind to Relena, because Trowa understands her perspective.

Date: 1 Jan 2006 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitude1056.livejournal.com
Err, I suppose I should also add that the loss-of-hope, somewhat related to the "don't trap me" constant leaving Trowa does in the series, often with little word to anyone -- he does it to Quatre, to Cathy (several times). I can't recall right now, but I think Heero is the only one he warns, when they part ways. And IIRC, when Trowa discovers Cathy is in danger, when they're on Peacemillion, he gets up and heads out without so much as a word to anyone, and it's either Heero or Quatre who put two and two together and realize Trowa's most likely motivations. Something like that.

So a big part of Trowa's personality, for me, is not just the introversion but the hugely independent streak, the part that not only won't compromise on his idealistic perspective as best he can, but also the part that won't give quarter. I'm not saying he's not compassionate, just that if what he wants is in conflict with another, he just leaves -- extrapolating from the fact that if he'd said to Cathy, "now I am going to take my big-ass truck with my Mysterious Fifty-Foot Tall Object and go kick some major Alliance ass and slaughter them all," doubtless she would've thrown a fit. Knowing that, and knowing it wouldn't change his mind, he leaves without a word rather than let the last word be an argument.

That's been my take on it for some time now, at least. YMMV, as always!