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29 Oct 2007 03:50 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
If you see this name showing up on your list, eh, it's just me.
ETA: ahem, the good (and bad, if you're a student) of Mandarin is the tonal element, and if you don't know the tones (and don't have the characters) then pinyin could mean any of a huge number of things. In this case, gou is third tone: 狗 (dog). Although if I said first tone instead, it could mean "bamboo frame for drying clothes" -- 篝. But third tone could just as well be "basket for trapping fish" -- 笱.
Kai is third tone. So depending on mood, it could be 凯 (triumphant), 剀 (careful), 慨 (generous), 恺 (joyful), or the one I actually intended, which is 锴 (iron, of the kind used in armor & swords). Although if I said it's fourth tone, it'd be 忾, which means angry.
It's not Japanese, however, as I'm not a student of that language, though it is nice to hear that it has a positive meaning in that language -- "change of era" is apt. My original idea, actually, also had a meaning in Japanese, of "dissolution" (as in debt). But then I decided that fourth-tone shou --狩 (imperial hunting dog) -- wasn't common enough in usage compared to gou, and although in third tone it could be 守 (guarding), I didn't want it confused with 兽 (wild beast), even if the pun of 寿 (life, longevity) would've been nice. Besides, I don't like the sound of 'sh' nearly as much as the middle-ground tone of a hard 'g', on the ears.
ETA: ahem, the good (and bad, if you're a student) of Mandarin is the tonal element, and if you don't know the tones (and don't have the characters) then pinyin could mean any of a huge number of things. In this case, gou is third tone: 狗 (dog). Although if I said first tone instead, it could mean "bamboo frame for drying clothes" -- 篝. But third tone could just as well be "basket for trapping fish" -- 笱.
Kai is third tone. So depending on mood, it could be 凯 (triumphant), 剀 (careful), 慨 (generous), 恺 (joyful), or the one I actually intended, which is 锴 (iron, of the kind used in armor & swords). Although if I said it's fourth tone, it'd be 忾, which means angry.
It's not Japanese, however, as I'm not a student of that language, though it is nice to hear that it has a positive meaning in that language -- "change of era" is apt. My original idea, actually, also had a meaning in Japanese, of "dissolution" (as in debt). But then I decided that fourth-tone shou --狩 (imperial hunting dog) -- wasn't common enough in usage compared to gou, and although in third tone it could be 守 (guarding), I didn't want it confused with 兽 (wild beast), even if the pun of 寿 (life, longevity) would've been nice. Besides, I don't like the sound of 'sh' nearly as much as the middle-ground tone of a hard 'g', on the ears.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:19 pm (UTC)I edited the post to explain the name, though perhaps I should add apologies to any who are native *cough* speakers... I suck at pronouncing it, though my teacher did say I had the prettiest handwriting in the class. (I hope that counts.)
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:35 pm (UTC)(Hey, you changed yours, y'know. And btw, that Bosch bit you left with me? It rocks. Once the other bits are all successfully stripped out -- and I'm making significant progress with that, damn it -- I think I'll pitch them all and replace them all with Bosch. That little puppy's held up quite well.)
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:39 pm (UTC)Except that I believe that meaning of kaigou is Japanese, and I chose this one because of its meaning in Mandarin. Though it is serendipitous to see that it has a positive meaning (and an apt one) in Japanese. Whew -- I was a little worried last night, after hitting "change name!" final step and having a split-second thought that it'd better not have some kind of obscene or truly offensive meaning in some other language.
I contemplated going with a gaelic phrase instead, but then realized there's no way anyone could a) pronounce it, if they chose to try to use it as a nickname, let alone b) successfully, repeatedly, spell the puppy. So many vowels and not enough consonants!
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 09:00 pm (UTC)... and now I have to go find out what "iron dog" is in Japanese. *runs off to Jeffrey's again*
*is mildly addicted to Jeffreys, can you tell?*
Out of curiosity, what was the Gaelic phrase you were thinking of?
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 05:15 am (UTC)There were several gaelic words or phrases, among them coingeis (independent, indifferent), cuairtear (traveller), or some variant with cu (dog) -- except that adjectives in gaelic are even more of a nightmare than in japanese, and I'd rather not be utterly ignorant and just throw two words together. (At least in Mandarin, I know I can do that, to a certain extent.) Unfortunately, s'rioghal or srioghal is already taken, and I contemplated modhream but figured no one would ever be able to figure out how to pronounce that.
(Bad enough my beagle was named Saimhain, and I spent eleven years either correcting the vet's assistants -- "No, it's Sah-ven, like seven, not Sam-hane" -- not that pagans were much better, calling her Ska-ven, or Sah-wen, and I kept having to explain, "no, not the old Irish pronounciation, or the modern Irish version, the Scottish version, and yes, it is different..." (Though I don't know which region in Scotland in particular -- I think Aberdeen, but I could be wrong.)
Oi, vey.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:41 pm (UTC)*cough*
I just totally revealed what generation I am (as though the use of gou doesn't, in and of itself, though maybe I'll get lucky and people will think I'm twelve years younger than I really am.
I've been meaning to write you back, btw -- life just keeps carrying me along (though I suspect it's same for you, these days) -- but still, very very happy to know you've achieved spawnage. I need to get a real job, so I have some security before I can sally forth and continue the quest, myself. Sigh.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 02:24 pm (UTC)virtuesfaults. ^_^)no subject
Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:43 pm (UTC)Yeah, it was time to set the past aside and accept that I'm not that person anymore. I feel a strange kind of relief mixed with regret, which is odd -- who would've thought I'd be more attached to a nick/concept than I ever have been to things, which I freely and happily donate/ditch at a moment's notice.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:45 pm (UTC)*blinks* Is it Sol?
Date: 29 Oct 2007 03:36 pm (UTC)What does kaigou mean?
Also, I miss you. We haven't spoken in forever XP
Re: *blinks* Is it Sol?
Date: 29 Oct 2007 05:39 pm (UTC)*squeee!*
Date: 29 Oct 2007 07:14 pm (UTC)Re: *squeee!*
Date: 29 Oct 2007 07:38 pm (UTC)Yes, I'm trying to get into some better habits myself. We can inspire each other maybe?
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:48 pm (UTC)(Oi, I don't have your new email address, so did Zeal forward the picture of Sachiko with her new baby, the orange monkey? It's not the highest quality, and I'm trying to catch a better picture, but every time she sees the camera, she stops whatever she's doing and hunkers down. I'm not sure why, but it means I have to be especially sneaky.)
See edited post, above, for extended meaning-options.
I know, I know! No visits in so long... Aren't you coming up this way for at least one home-game this year? I'd like to do a major not-really-thanksgiving day, and have folks come from all over to celebrate both un-holiday and a new (mostly) kitchen... but that won't be until after exams. The suggestion of anything before then gets a grumpy recitation of all the exam dates and upcoming papers due... sigh. Life with student.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 07:19 pm (UTC)I believe I'll be in town for the game on Nov 10th. It's our last home game. I've been up for a few others, but they've either been family weekends, or very very short trips. I came up for that awful KS game and stood in the rain before driving back home the same day.
We just need to arrange a weekend, obviously :) If you're talking after exams, it'll have to be after Christmas and New Years, but I'd love to come up for a weekend. Keep me posted on maybe good visit dates. I just have to plan ahead :P
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:51 pm (UTC)Oh, btw, there was a post I made over on the (now-going-away) fan-account, prompted in part by some of your comments, plus my own observations/complaints -- http://solitude1056.livejournal.com/104343.html ... in case you're interested. ;-)
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 05:33 am (UTC)stoleappropriated) so I wouldn't know if the combo was snickery in Chinese. In Japanese "iron dog" would be 鉄の犬 - tetsu no inu (or if you wanted to get fancy, 黒金の犬 - kurogane no inu)....oh, and "kai" is "chicken" in Cantonese so it could also be "chicken dog"...XD
and would you believe that I didn't actually know of the existence of that other journal till now?XD
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 04:38 pm (UTC)Also, I don't think I've ever mentioned this, but I seriously love that icon.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 06:58 pm (UTC)The temp gets below about 78F, and I'm putting on a sweatshirt. It gets to below 68F, and I've got on multiple layers, wool socks, and I'm getting cranky, and stiff from sitting curled in a ball to conserve heat. When it hits about 55F, I'm thoroughly miserable, half-asleep, and every muscle is cramping from trying to curl in on itself, unless I'm attempting to wrap myself around the nearest source of heat.
Not saying I like to bask in the sun -- but I do tend to turn off the A/C, open the windows, and get down to tank-top and shorts with the internal temp at about 85F, and think nothing of it. (Then again, I also grew up in the Deep South, and we rarely had the money to turn on the A/C during the summer, so it was always ceiling fans, open windows, and one or two room-fans to get air circulating.)
Which is a really long-winded way to say, yes, I am part-lizard. ;-)
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 07:00 pm (UTC)(See my comment to written-in-blue, above.)
Yeah, the idea of a British (or Aussie?) iguana does sort of have a peculiar je ne sais quoi...
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 07:11 pm (UTC)Yes, yes it does.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 07:00 pm (UTC)(btw, did you get those icons/images I sent you? I want to see what Sanzo does with them...)
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 12:08 am (UTC)I'm still calling you Sol, though, as it would just be strange not to.
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