Honestly, I think Gundam Wing is the one fandom I've actually seen any sort of true "holy warring" about this in (and other Gundam fandoms to an extent as well).
With the BOF IV fandom, people who don't like FouMami usually don't have a thing against het pairings, but for some reason just don't like the pairing with Mami. (Probably the most vociferous opponent I've seen of that pairing is NOT a yaoi fan--actually despises yaoi; she essentially writes fanfic involving herself as a Relationship Sue with Fou-lu, and doesn't like *any* competition. She is honest about this, though.) The few I've seen opposed tend to oppose the relationship on the grounds of "Country girl and god-emperor would never work" or essentially thinking Mami is being a fangirl (and showing unrequited love).
Interestingly, I've also seen that identical argument against FouMami (the "Mami is being unrequited in love and Fou-lu doesn't care) used against 6x9 (usually far more strongly, and with implications that Noin is actually stalking Zechs). The main difference is that in the BOF fandom, typically those opposed to FouMami generally think Fou-lu doesn't care about emotional relationships with anyone.
(Admittedly, in the BOF fandom this is coloured by the knowledge that Mami does canonically die in an especially tragic manner--and one that does imply, IMHO, that they did have a relationship together. Specifically, Mami gets captured, tortured to the breaking point, and is used in a human sacrifice to power a "hex cannon" in an attempt to kill Fou-lu--because hex cannon "ammo" works better the closer the relationship between the "warhead" and the hexed (he ends up going insane and deciding to wipe out humanity on the grounds we're all bastards). In the manga version of it, in fact, it was such a tearjerker that a lot of Japanese FouRyu shippers stated they almost converted to FouMami through that arc alone.)
Those who don't like yaoi in the BOF fandom tend not to like yaoi pairings at all, and at the same time there are folks who do both FouMami *and* FouRyu (especially in Japan); I've even seen cases where FouMami and FouRyu ended up being combined (where Fou-lu is angsting over his relationship with Mami and feeling guilty over her death, and Ryu essentially takes him in for a comfort relationship--why yes, most FouRyu IS incredibly fluffy, why do you ask? :D) There also tends to be an emphasis on avoiding holy warring in that fandom, especially as (compared to Gundam fandom or even Mo No No Ke fandom in Japan) the fandom tends to be Small But Dedicated. :D
From what little debate I've ever seen in the Mo No No Ke fandom on who Kusuriuri is sleeping with, most arguments I've seen against KxK are on the same grounds against FouMami--Kusuriuri isn't going to be getting into a relationship with anyone. (Of course, a lot of those shippers are also KxH. Your mileage may vary.)
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Date: 3 Dec 2009 07:27 pm (UTC)Honestly, I think Gundam Wing is the one fandom I've actually seen any sort of true "holy warring" about this in (and other Gundam fandoms to an extent as well).
With the BOF IV fandom, people who don't like FouMami usually don't have a thing against het pairings, but for some reason just don't like the pairing with Mami. (Probably the most vociferous opponent I've seen of that pairing is NOT a yaoi fan--actually despises yaoi; she essentially writes fanfic involving herself as a Relationship Sue with Fou-lu, and doesn't like *any* competition. She is honest about this, though.) The few I've seen opposed tend to oppose the relationship on the grounds of "Country girl and god-emperor would never work" or essentially thinking Mami is being a fangirl (and showing unrequited love).
Interestingly, I've also seen that identical argument against FouMami (the "Mami is being unrequited in love and Fou-lu doesn't care) used against 6x9 (usually far more strongly, and with implications that Noin is actually stalking Zechs). The main difference is that in the BOF fandom, typically those opposed to FouMami generally think Fou-lu doesn't care about emotional relationships with anyone.
(Admittedly, in the BOF fandom this is coloured by the knowledge that Mami does canonically die in an especially tragic manner--and one that does imply, IMHO, that they did have a relationship together. Specifically, Mami gets captured, tortured to the breaking point, and is used in a human sacrifice to power a "hex cannon" in an attempt to kill Fou-lu--because hex cannon "ammo" works better the closer the relationship between the "warhead" and the hexed (he ends up going insane and deciding to wipe out humanity on the grounds we're all bastards). In the manga version of it, in fact, it was such a tearjerker that a lot of Japanese FouRyu shippers stated they almost converted to FouMami through that arc alone.)
Those who don't like yaoi in the BOF fandom tend not to like yaoi pairings at all, and at the same time there are folks who do both FouMami *and* FouRyu (especially in Japan); I've even seen cases where FouMami and FouRyu ended up being combined (where Fou-lu is angsting over his relationship with Mami and feeling guilty over her death, and Ryu essentially takes him in for a comfort relationship--why yes, most FouRyu IS incredibly fluffy, why do you ask? :D) There also tends to be an emphasis on avoiding holy warring in that fandom, especially as (compared to Gundam fandom or even Mo No No Ke fandom in Japan) the fandom tends to be Small But Dedicated. :D
From what little debate I've ever seen in the Mo No No Ke fandom on who Kusuriuri is sleeping with, most arguments I've seen against KxK are on the same grounds against FouMami--Kusuriuri isn't going to be getting into a relationship with anyone. (Of course, a lot of those shippers are also KxH. Your mileage may vary.)