oi, naruto.

[kaigou]

[panic class=fan]

ch292 keeps throwing errors in unzipping for some inexplicable reason, so I skipped it and went on to read 293. oi, my breaking heart, what did I miss and what the hell is kishimoto doing to naruto? cripes.

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[arcanetheorem.livejournal.com]

Here's a few links to some Chapter 292 scanlations:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E5BVCZZG
http://www.globatechonline.com/~belenos/quinth/Naruto292HQ_mudvayne.rar
http://naruto.japflap.com/medias/leech/download.php?id=1532


They should work for you; if not, then your version of WinZip (or whatever zipping agent you have) is not working as it should. ^^ I've come to enjoy the recent chapters, and 293 was a major 'wtf' moment for me ^^;; I somehow knew he'd eventually take the form of a mini-Kyuubi---just didn't know it'd be this soon in the series. Oh, well.

Enjoy! ^^

[crazy-toffee.livejournal.com]

Tried this one?

http://www.coolccc.org/privatedownload/naruto/coolccc292.zip

I have no problems opening it. :)

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

Actually, I'm on a mac, so it's a different program entirely. But I saw toffee's reponse below & snagged that one and it worked -- will bookmark all these as alternates in case this happens again. Thanks!

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

Oh, and yes, 293 was a total wtfh, omg, wtf moment. Felt like it was just so far so fast, but then again, it also clarifies the difference. That is, that Gaara's injuries got Naruto pissed off -- but that simply taunting him with Sasuke makes him go truly ballistic, to the point of damaging himself willingly just to have the strength to fight. I'm wondering if, then, the point for Naruto's next major arc is learning to control/merge with that, rather than just call up raw power and hope that's enough.

err, so, anyway. yeah.

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

I'd been getting them through narutofan, and normally it's not a problem. But this d/l worked just well (thank you!!), and now 293 makes a little more sense...but only a little. Cripes! I just keep thinking, omg, wtf, can we smack Kishimoto now for not churning these out faster? ...waaah.

[crazy-toffee.livejournal.com]

Ah, glad it worked for you (I usually hunt around on Fridays, since that means I find the scanlations before narutofan posts... addiction, alas)

Smacking Kishimoto isn't nearly enough right now. He's killing me with this wtf-ness and Naruto-twisting.

[crazy-toffee.livejournal.com]

On a completely unrelated side-note... your Heero icon makes me imagine all your posts as being read with a perfect monotone. XD

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

I harbor the secret suspicion that Kishimoto has thought out all possible darkest interpretations by fans, and then multiplied that to the nth degree. Bastard. Only the most sadistic writers amongst us might've thought not just "naruto becomes the kyuubi and/or loses control of the kyuubi" but also "in doing so, he's killing himself".

We don't usually push it that hard, but then again...it is raising the stakes, and Kishimoto is doing that beautifully -- and what's so great about it (to me, as a writer) is that this is not "omg Orochimaru is Teh Bad Guy" or even that Atasuki is Teh Bad Guy but that Naruto himself is the bad guy.

...If that makes sense.

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

Oi, you misspelled deadpan. Glad to help! *smirk*

(Actually, I'm not formally logged in, so I'm just getting the default icon on every post, and this is it.)

[pixiepilot.livejournal.com]

*nods* Yeah, it makes sense.

Just writing to share your pain for not getting 292 as easily as usual. I just caught up with it and 293 tonight. I am involved, frustrated, and feel the need to go gnaw on the couch or something.

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Gnawing on the couch about sums it up. Err, how soon 'til the next chapter comes out?

[crazy-toffee.livejournal.com]

Naruto himself is the bad guy

Yes, well, as a writer, I can appreciate the terrible glory in having accomplished that. (Though, he's raising the stakes beyond the angstiest ficcer's dreams O_o A bit scary, if may say so). I had originally wondered if the issue of Naruto's constant regeneration would be dealt with, given that the series did have a relatively realistic take on biology.

And to see Naruto go insane over the idea of Sasuke, makes me wonder what will happen when they meet.

Kishimoto's storytelling is of a cruel, cruel kind...

[crazy-toffee.livejournal.com]

Every Friday. =_= You have 5 days' worth of gnawing.

[crazy-toffee.livejournal.com]

*smacks face* Silly me!

(The icon certainly DOES things for your '*smirk*s'...)

[sarolynne.livejournal.com]

...I was going to do that in Foxhunt. -_-;;; The Kyuubi + Killing himself thing. I seriously didn't expect it to become canon. (I hadn't even got that far yet. Obviously, I thought it would take much longer than it did.)

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

I suspect we're going to get a lot of heartbreak -- on the levels making most shojo or shonen-ai stories look like amateurs. A lot of lot of heartbreak...

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

Clearly there's only one way to deal with Kishimoto, that is, to guess what he'll do next: think of the absolute worst that could happen, the absolute worst, and then double it. Somehow. And that's what we'll get. I mean, he's not really followed any of the rules of shonen-stories, to some degree; Naruto never even passed that test in which he kicked Neji's ass! From what I can tell of shonen (and even shojo), our hero should've been awarded some minor recognition, but Naruto, nothing. Odd, I thought, at the time; now I just see it's part of a bigger pattern.

[sarolynne.livejournal.com]

He does have a notable derth in recognition so far as shounen series go. He also is running a little low on victories. Let's see... Kiba in the Chuunin exams, which hardly counts because there was so little invested in it. Neji, then Gaara. And he doesn't seem to get any credit for Gaara, which isn't so terribly surprising considering. He reaches people, but he doesn't seem to get too much in the way of group recognition. He's also never recognized as a leader.

Normally, by now, he would have taken the lead in at least one situation.

...I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

[solitude1056.livejournal.com]

I wonder what his inspiration is, then; I'd originally heard he was a huge fan of Dragonball Z (but I don't know the series and hate the art so I'm kinda fuzzy as to how this would influence anyone outside the YuuYuuHakusho school of "five episodes for ONE FRICKIN' FIGHT" kinda thing). It's almost as though Sasuke is written to consistently be the number one choice, as though the story may be named after Naruto, and ostensibly about Naruto, but in fact it's about Sasuke--from Naruto's point of view. Then again, certainly neither of them (or even Sakura, for that matter) have done much to win praise & esteem from their classmates.

[sarolynne.livejournal.com]

I've seen some DBZ, and from what I have seen... I'd say not there at all. Goku is always the wonderboy, and everyone who matters seemed to realize it.

One of the things that's impressed me about Kishimoto is his sense of proportion with regards to powerlevels/talent. If we're told someone is powerful, they are. And most of the time--even with the Kyuubi et all--if the weaker opponent gets to beat them, it's either by tearing themselves up, through sheer bloody-mindedness, or both. And sometimes both. If you're a genius, you're a genius. If you're a monster, you're a monster. And if you're a normal guy, you better have a hell of a ace in the hole to compete with that. What's more, if you're a student, then you won't surpass your teacher in a month, or a year, or three years. You can work, and maybe you'll get there someday, but despite the moral of working hard, it's not easy. And not everyone makes it.

Lee is shown as the most hardworking, determined character in the series. He's an inspiration, in ways. And yet, he never gets to actually win. Unless you count his short meeting with Naruto and Sasuke before the Chuunin exam. The monsters beat him so far.

I don't know that Sasuke is really more focal than Naruto, but he's still the genius, and Naruto's still fighting for wider acceptance, and now struggling with monsterdom. What's more, he brings a good share of the conflict.

In the end, Naruto is the one who affects the people around him, which sounds cheesier than it is, but that's really what makes him the protagonist more than anything. He's also the one that learns. Emotionally, Sasuke's a lot more static, which makes him a better tragic lead traditionally. The story itself is definitely about both of them.

...And I was going to say something else, but it escaped me. I really have thought about this too much.